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Summary

Kia Stonic

Rising interest rates and the cost of living is causing many household budgets to tighten and for many of us big purchases are being rethought. A lot of people are asking if they really do need another large car especially in the city; or if it is the right time to buy an EV when they’re still so expensive?

That’s why we've decided to present you with a comparison of affordable urban alternatives to 'going big 'or 'switching to electric'. We've put two of the cheapest and smallest SUVs from Hyundai and Kia in a head-to-head battle.

That’s right, we have the Kia Stonic GT-Line versus the Hyundai Venue Elite - two very similar SUVs – from the same parent company – which share a lot of the same engineering parts, tech and features.

But as we found out, one of these two very similar SUVs stood out as better for value, safety, tech and practicality. Yup, we’ve done the testing for you, including how much fuel each uses and what they’re like to drive.

Which one wins? You’ll see...

Safety rating
Engine Type1.0L turbo
Fuel Type
Fuel Efficiency5.4L/100km
Seating5 seats

Nissan Qashqai

Everybody loves an underdog story and Nissan’s one is a beauty.

For decades, the model we knew as the Pulsar struggled to crack the European small car market against the likes of the Ford Focus and the company was in serious strife. Worthy but derivative, it struggled to stand out.

So, for its 2007 replacement, some bright sparks convinced Nissan to reimagine the hatch by butching it up, raising the ride height and changing the name to something exotically daft. And, voila, the original Qashqai was born.

Initially sold in Australia as the Dualis, it quickly became a global smash hit, finally catapulting the brand from follower to leader, creating the small SUV segment as we know it today.

If you love your Hyundai Kona, Mazda CX-30, Toyota C-HR or VW T-Roc you have Nissan’s ingenuity to thank.

Now it’s at it again with the Qashqai e-Power – an EV-first hybrid using a petrol engine to only charge its battery so an electric motor can drive the front wheels. More than a Prius, less than a Tesla, then.

The next big thing or a dead end? Let’s find out.

Safety rating
Engine Type1.5L turbo
Fuel TypeElectric/pulp
Fuel Efficiency5.2L/100km
Seating5 seats

Verdict

Kia Stonic/10

If there’s proof that not all SUVs are exactly alike - even two like the Stonic and Venue which are so similar that they even share parts - then this comparison is all the evidence you need.

Both SUVs are good choices, you can’t really go wrong. But one of them is clearly a better choice for those looking more value for money, along with extra practicality, safety equipment and tech - and that’s the Venue Elite.

Sure, the Venue Elite doesn’t get the Stonic GT-Line’s sporty turbo engine and dual-clutch transmission, but for the everyday driver we feel the Venue’s smooth automatic and fuss-free engine make for better city driving.

So, the Venue wins here. Along with being better to drive in the city, it's smaller in size for better parking, the visibility is better from the driver's seat, the big and clear digital speed is vital in urban areas, and it does a better job of tech and practicality, too.

 

Kia Stonic GT-Line

Hyundai Venue Elite

Price and features

7

9

Design

8

8

Practicality

8

10

Under the bonnet

8

7

Efficiency

8

8

Safety

8

8

Ownership

8

8

Driving

7

8

OVERALL

7.8

8.3

 


Nissan Qashqai8.3/10

So, should you give up on the Qashqai e-Power, or surrender to its many and varied charms? Well, when the Japanese brand really tries, as it clearly has here, Nissan can be as imaginative and as innovative as any carmaker on the planet.

And given the latest Qashqai out of Europe is so advanced and unique within its SUV category, this deserves to be on everybody’s shortlist. With e-Power under that pretty bonnet, this Ti is a leader, not a follower. This underdog could win best-in-show!

Note: CarsGuide attended this event as a guest of the manufacturer with accommodation and meals provided.

Design

Kia Stonic

The Stonic and Venue are like sisters in that they share the same engineering genes and tech from parent company Hyundai, but they are anything but identical.

The Stonic looks more like a raised, sporty hatchback with its narrower windows, pointy nose and a sloping tailgate.

The Venue has a more traditional upright and boxy SUV shape with a rugged but cute look.

Both are premium looking in their design from the crisp edges in the metal work to the LED running lights.

The premium look almost carries through to the cabins with sporty fabric seats and modern dashboards, but both have hard plastics used in the door trims which lowers the tone to a budget feel.

The Stonic’s carbon fibre-effect trim on the dash is good, but the Venue pulls off a more youthful, techy look with white elements around the air vents and a digital driver display.   

The Stonic measures 4140mm end-to-end and 1760mm wide, while the Venue is 4040mm in length, 4040mm long and 1770mm across.

What’s interesting is that despite the Venue being shorter in length, it has better practicality. Let’s talk about that. 

 

Kia Stonic GT-Line

Hyundai Venue Elite

Length

4140

4040

Height

1520

1592

Width

1760

1770

Ground clearance

183

170

Wheel base

2580

2520

 

Kia Stonic GT-Line

Hyundai Venue Elite

8

8


Nissan Qashqai

There’s nothing radical or ground-breaking about the third-gen version’s styling, other than it’s pretty and unmistakably a Qashqai. Even from tens of metres away. That’s a hallmark of good design.

But, like an Oscar’s worthy red-carpet outfit, the familiar lines remain classy on this third imagining, with a particularly strong front-end LED lighting graphics presence against a modern grille treatment, pleasing classical proportions and an elegantly executed posterior.

Unless you’re a train spotter-type or work for Nissan PR, it’s easy to miss the very minor details setting this particular Ti apart. Nissan dubs the extra glossy black lipstick up front as its ‘premium grille’ appearance. There’s a smattering of e-Power badges. And ground clearance drops 5.0mm, to 175mm. That’s it.

As with all current Qashqais, the e-Power offers larger packaging compared to before, as a result of adopting a fresh “global Renault-Nissan-Mitsubishi Alliance platform”. The upshot is a longer, wider and taller small SUV, to the tune of 31, 30 and 29mm, respectively.

And, for the benefit of rear seat occupants, the wheelbase has also been stretched by 19mm.

It’s worth noting that, despite Nissan’s best efforts to keep the kilos down by deploying aluminium for the doors, bonnet and front guards (resulting in a commendable 60kg saving while body stiffness rises by 41 per cent), the e-Power attracts a hefty 200kg penalty over the ICE Ti.

Does this adversely affect efficiency? Please keep reading to find out.

Practicality

Kia Stonic

SUVs should be practical regardless of how small they might be. So along with enough room to seat five people, the Stonic and Venue have to be functional, versatile and have a reasonably sized boot.

Well, let’s start with the boots - both have impressively large cargo capacity for SUVs this small. The Stonic’s boot volume is 332 litres, while the Venue’s is 355 litres. 

In the video of this comparison, we show how only the Venue’s boot can fit all the CarsGuide luggage and have its tailgate closed. We had to remove the Stonic’s cargo shelf to fit the same amount of luggage.

That leaves you with a cargo cover you have to either keep in the second row or leave behind.

The Venue has an ingenious solution to that cargo cover problem - a sidling rail which will accommodate the cover flat against the second row seat backs. 

As for cabin storage, only the Venue gets a shelf above the glove box opening, but both SUVs have two cupholders up front and bottle holders in the doors.

The Venue is better for power and charging outlets with two USB ports, a 12V point, and a wireless phone charger up front and two USB ports in the second row. 

The Stonic doesn’t have a wireless phone charger, and along with a 12V outlet, has just one USB port in the front and one in the back.

The Venue also just beats the Stonic for rear headroom and legroom, but I have to say that even at 189cm tall, I can just fit behind my driving position in both and that’s pretty amazing given the tiny size of these SUVs. 

 

Kia Stonic GT-Line

Hyundai Venue Elite

Boot space (behind second row)

332L

355L

Cupholders

2

2

USB ports 1st row

1 Type A


 

1 Type A

1 Type  C

USB ports 2nd row

1 type A

2 type C

12V outlets

1

1

Wireless phone charging

No

Yes

Privacy glass

Yes

Yes

Directional airvents

No

No

Roof Rails

Yes

Yes 

Cargo cover

Yes

Yes

 

Kia Stonic GT-Line

Hyundai Venue Elite

8

10


Nissan Qashqai

Being bigger than before brings benefits.

The Qashqai’s doors open super-wide. Great for entry/egress, winning over SUV sceptics and inflicting damage on adjacent vehicles.

Once sat inside, the people-pleasing presentation continues in this sumptuously-presented Ti grade, with eyes immediately drinking in the pleated leather-faced seat patterns, subtle colour-coded trim, attractive dashboard architecture and the surprising depth of quality in the materials deployed.

As we discovered to our delight, all are further flattered when drenched in the dappled rays of an early autumnal afternoon sun, courtesy of that panoramic hole in the roof.

If you’re expecting the common-sense dullness of some less-ambitious Nissans, a significant mindset reset is required, highlighting the European aspirations of this cosy yet comfy British-built SUV.

In our comparatively brief time in the Qashqai, we also noted the excellent driving position, enveloping support of the fine front seats, user-friendliness of the digital displays (including the head-up dials), clear instrumentation that still manages to convey as much, or as little, data as you need without bamboozling you with info-overload, generous storage and an effective climate-control system.

Plus, that vast sunroof includes a full-sunblock screen – a feature sorely missing in many European and Chinese branded alternatives. Others, take heed.

Our main objection is obstructed over-the-shoulder and rear vision, that’s very obvious when parking in tight spots. Those cameras are essential.

Moving out the back, it’s fairly spacious for most people though knee room remains tight for longer-legged passengers. Most expected amenities are present, such as face-level air vents, USB-A and -C outlets, a centre armrest with cupholders and overhead lighting. And the upmarket ambience carries through, too.

But don’t go expecting any sliding or reclining back-seat versatility, as you might find in some rival SUVs.

Now, here’s an interesting fact. Nissan says there’s no drop in cargo capacity between the e-Power and the regular ICE-powered version of the Qashqai. Indeed, the figure increases, from 418 litres to 452L and, if you lower the back seat, from 1513 to 1518L.

So, how does this magic work? The location of the battery underneath the front seats (rather than under the rear bench) helps, as well as the elimination of the ICE Ti’s 19-inch alloy spare wheel for that infernal tyre-repair kit.

Win some, lose some!

Price and features

Kia Stonic

We chose the top-of-the-range versions of our two models in this head-to-head, and so they’re also the most expensive in their line-ups. 

The Kia Stonic GT-Line lists for $30,790 plus on-road costs and the Venue Elite comes in at $28,750. You don’t need to spend this much. The entry grades list in the low $20Ks but you won’t get the same features. Let’s talk about those…

OK, standard features. Both the Stonic GT-Line and the Venue Elite come with 17-inch alloy wheels, roof rails, rear privacy glass, a sunroof, a proximity key and LED daytime running lights.

The Stonic gets LED headlights, too, and they are much brighter and better for dark roads than the yellowish halogen lights on the Venue.

Inside, both come standard with fabric seats and single-zone climate control. They both have a 4.2-inch multifunction display and an 8.0-inch multimedia touchscreen with sat nav, Apple CarPlay, Android Auto and digital radio

The Stonic GT-Line has a four-speaker stereo, while the Venue Elite comes with a six-speaker system.

The Venue has a wireless phone charger. That's not offered on the Stonic GT-Line and that's a big miss in my books - wireless phone charging is life-changing and means no more cables or plugging in.

The Hyundai also has a large, clear illuminated speedo that's ideal for the city where school zones, mobile camera and traffic light speed cameras are everywhere. The Kia, on the other hand, has a traditional dial-style speedometer and tachometer.

 

Kia Stonic GT-Line

Hyundai Venue Elite

Price

$30,790

$28,750

Seat upholstery

Synthetic leather

Cloth

Climate control

single-zone

single-zone

Heated wing mirrors

yes

Yes

Multimedia screen

8-inch screen

8-inch screen

Digital instruments

4.2-inch

4.2-inch

LED running lights

Yes

Yes

Apple CarPlay/Android Auto

Yes (wired)

Yes (wired)

Stereo

Four-speaker

six-speaker

Built-in sat nav

Yes

Yes

Digital radio

Yes 

yes

Promitiy Key and push-start

Yes

Yes

Headlights 

LED

Projector (Xenon?)

Wheel size

17-inch alloy

17-inch alloy

Privacy glass

Yes

Yes

Sunroof

Yes

Yes

 

Kia Stonic GT-Line

Hyundai Venue Elite

7

9


Nissan Qashqai

Right now, there’s only the single, Qashqai Ti e-Power grade for Australia.

Starting from $51,590, before on-road costs, it adds $4200 to the price of the regular 1.3-litre turbo-petrol Ti, and is gunning straight for more conventional hybrids like the Hyundai Kona N-Line HEV, Honda’s superb ZR-V e:HEV and the new, second-gen Toyota C-HR Koba.

Now, they’re all conventional hybrids with their internal combustion engine (ICE) doing the driving, so the Nissan has a point of difference – and possibly an advantage – over those.

Note, though, that both the C-HR and Kona hybrids also come in grades costing under $45,000 – something the Qashqai e-Power won’t match until the lower-spec versions arrive in Australia sometime later on.

At least Nissan sees fit to stuff the Ti with luxuries like adaptive LED headlights, a head-up display, panoramic sunroof, hands-free powered tailgate, a 10-speaker Bose audio system, heated front seats with massaging function, pleated leather trim, front and rear USB A/C outlets and 19-inch alloys.

These come on top of expected goodies like dual-zone climate control, a 12.3-inch central touchscreen, satellite navigation, wireless Apple CarPlay, wired Android Auto, digital radio, a wireless phone charger, a surround-view camera, auto on/off headlights and wipers, auto-folding exterior mirrors and ambient lighting.

There’s also a host of welcome driver-assist tech. More on those in the Safety section below.

However, the e-Power loses the essential temporary spare wheel for the fiddly and often-useless tyre repair kit. Not good enough, Nissan.

That aside, they make for a finely-crafted and properly fully-equipped small hybrid SUV out of Europe, that, when considered in that light, offers strong value-for-money against technically less-intriguing alternatives.

Advantage, Qashqai.

Under the bonnet

Kia Stonic

The Stonic GT-Line and Venue Elite may share much of the same engineering, but their engines are very different.

The Venue has 1.6-litre four-cylinder petrol engine, while the Stonic has a smaller engine, but it’s a turbocharged 1.0-litre three-cylinder turbo-petrol. 

The Venue’s four-cylinder has more power than the Stonic’s engine but doesn’t feel as sporty and fun as the three-cylinder.

Adding to the sporty feeling of the Stonic’s engine is a seven-speed dual-clutch transmission which shifts intuitively and is vastly different from the traditional six-speed auto in the Venue.

But wait - although the Stonic is equipped with the far better engine and transmission, the driving section of this review discovered that this didn’t translate well for city traffic.

 

Kia Stonic GT-Line

Hyundai Venue Elite

Size and Layout

1.0-litre 3cyl turbo petrol engine

1.6-litre V6 petrol engine

Power/Torque

74kW/172Nm

90kW/151Nm

Transmission

7-spd dual clutch automatic

6-spd automatic

Drivetrain

Front-wheel drive

Front-wheel drive

 

Kia Stonic GT-Line

Hyundai Venue Elite

8

7


Nissan Qashqai

Under the e-Power’s bonnet is a 1.5-litre three-cylinder, turbo-petrol engine featuring a unique and intriguing, efficiency-enhancing yet performance-boosting, variable compression ratio.

It produces 116kW of power and 250Nm of torque on its own, and is mated to a small-ish 2.1kWh lithium-ion battery and inverter, powering an electric motor that sends drive, via a single-speed reduction-gear transmission, to the front wheels. A set-up Nissan calls 'e-CVT'.

Combined power and torque maximums are 140kW and a considerable 330Nm, respectively. Tipping the scales at 1728kg, the Ti e-Power’s power-to-weight ratio is a healthy 81kW/tonne.

Along with 'Sport' and 'Eco' modes, there’s also a one-pedal driving option that provides electricity-saving regenerative braking that washes off a good deal of speed to substantially slow you down. It's a stepping stone between a hybrid and full EV and you never need to plug it in anywhere.

Nissan made myriad changes to the MacPherson-style strut front and multi-link rear suspension design to accommodate all the additional electrification tech.

Remember towing capacity is half that of the regular Qashqai’s 1500kg (braked trailer), dropping to the latter’s 750kg unbraked figure.

Efficiency

Kia Stonic

When we test fuel consumption, we carry out a real world exercise in which we fill the tanks, drive the same route taking in a combination of different types of road conditions, and then fill the tanks again to find out how much each car used. 

We took both the Stonic GT-line and Venue Elite on a 110km round loop of Sydney on a combination of city streets, suburban roads and motorways and as you can see in the table below, both used almost the same amount of fuel. 

Both of them were impressively efficient, but I was expecting the Stonic to be more so - it should be according to the car makers, but this Stonic was brand new, with only about 500km on the clock and until an engine is completely run in after about 1000km, it will use more fuel. So I have a sneaky suspicion it is more fuel efficient than the Venue.

The Kia Stonic GT-Line with its 1.0-litre engine and 45-litre fuel tank, has a range of approximately 833km, while the Venue Elite with its 1.6-litre engine and 45-litre fuel tank, has a range of about 625km.

 

Kia Stonic GT-Line

Hyundai Venue Elite

Official/combined consumption

5.4L/100km

7.2L/100km

Real-world test

6.2/100km

5.7L/100km

Minimum RON rating

91RON

91RON

Fuel tank size

45L

45L

Approx range

833km

625km

 

Kia Stonic GT-Line

Hyundai Venue Elite

8

8


Nissan Qashqai

Nissan reckons the Ti e-Power should average around 5.2L/100km on a combined urban, extra-urban cycle, which equates to a carbon dioxide emissions rating of 117 grams/km.

We managed a still-commendable 5.8L as indicated by the trip computer, but we did not have a chance to test it at the pump.

Note, as with all Qashqais, the e-Power needs more-expensive 95 RON premium unleaded petrol. Brimming the 55L fuel tank, expect a range of up to around 1050km between refills. That's 150km up on the regular 1.3L turbo versions.

Driving

Kia Stonic

OK, back in the engine section of this comparison I sang the praises of the Stonic’s sporty three-cylinder and dual-clutch auto, and I maintain that it’s the better engine and transmission, but the Venue is better to drive in city traffic.

See, the three-cylinder suffers from turbo lag and the transmission isn’t smooth. Combine this with a stop-start fuel saving system and around town the Stonic is a frustrating SUV to pilot.

The Venue’s dull and far from sporty engine and transmission actually nailed city driving perfectly because of the smooth and fuss-free operation. 

Both the Stonic and Venue rode and handled almost identically, with the steering in the Venue feeling lighter and easier.

Visibility in the Venue was better than the Stonic due to the Hyundai’s large windows and more elevated seating position, too.

So despite the Stonic’s great little three-cylinder, the Venue wins overall for driving considering that most people will be piloting these little SUVs in the city and suburbs where the Venue is the easiest and best to drive. 

Kia Stonic GT-Line

Hyundai Venue Elite

7

8


Nissan Qashqai

Two things are obvious soon after the driver presses the starter and silently whooshes away in a Qashqai Ti e-Power.

Firstly, there’s a real weight to it, highlighting this as a solid (as well as heavy) vehicle of substance. And, secondly, once over this initial impression, everything then seems completely normal and intuitive. There’s nothing alien going on here.

Despite the mass, acceleration is brisk, with throttle response becoming even livelier once on the move, since you can feel all that instant torque on tap, even with a light flex of your right foot.

Pushing down harder, it should soon become clear this is a fast machine, so keep an eye on that digital speedo display. It caught us out a couple of times during our test drive through central Victoria.

Using the driving modes reveals varying behaviour according to the settings. In Eco mode the e-Power has a smooth and relaxed gait; performance is Normal seems more spirited while in Sport responses are appropriately stronger and more urgent.

It’s worth keeping the latter in mind, because the chassis is set up for a sporty, Euro feel, meaning there’s a tautness to the suspension that's a little at odds with the plushness of the interior. This isn’t a soft, bouncy ride.

Rolling on a 235/50 R19 wheel and tyre package, there’s a pleasing balance of steering feel, handling agility and roadholding grip, resulting in a dynamically athletic and reassuringly controlled vehicle, even at speed through tighter corners. However, as with the e-Power’s acceleration delivery, the keener driver has to first push through a level of inertia to discover this.

One trait worth keeping in mind is that the tail can become loose and even slide out a little before the ESC quickly yet calmly reels it back in, if you attempt to take a bend too fast. Beware, though, that as the roads were hot and dry during our drive, we cannot attest to how this behaviour will manifest in the wet. Should be fun if you’re a keener driver. We weren’t expecting that.

What else? The easy e-Pedal function works well, providing significant braking up to a point, without bringing the vehicle to a full stop. It soon feels second nature.

Plus, unlike most Toyota hybrids, many EVs and even the X-Trail Ti e-Power we tested recently, the smaller-brother Qashqai avoids that oddly wooden brake-pedal feel, though again, a test in inner-urban traffic may reveal something else.

And, finally, over coarse-chip surfaces, there’s a bit too much tyre or road-noise intrusion coming inside, though over the smoother stuff, you’ll also feel blissfully cocooned in the comfort the Ti packaging provides.

Overall, then, the Qashqai e-Power is a swift, agile and entertaining drive, as well as safe and secure, revealing a further depth to Nissan’s engineering talent and capability.

Safety

Kia Stonic

Both the Stonic and Venue have the maximum five-star ANCAP ratings, but the Stonic’s is from 2017 and Venue’s is from 2019, and that’s not as good as a 2023 five-star rating.

Still both have AEB, lane-keeping assistance and blind-spot warning.

The big difference is the Venue has rear cross-traffic alert which will tell you if somebody is about to walk behind the car or if somebody’s driving past while you’re reversing. That's great for driveways and carparks.

For child seats, both the Stonic and Venue have two ISOFIX mounts and three top-tether anchor points.

In their second rows, both have curtain airbags.

Both SUVs have space-saver spare wheels, which give you more room in the boot and is better than a repair kit.

 

Kia Stonic GT-Line

Hyundai Venue Elite

Auto emergency braking

Yes

Yes

Lane keep assist

Yes

Yes

Blind spot monitoring

Yes

Yes

Rear cross traffic alert

No

Yes

Rear AEB

No

No

Front and rear parking sensors

Rear only

Rear only

Airbags

7

7

Airbags 3rd row coverage

Yes

Yes

Child seat ISOFIX

2 x 2nd row

3 x 2nd row

Child seat top tether

3 x 2nd row

3 x 2nd row

Camera

Reversing

Reversing

ANCAP rating (year tested)

Five (2017)

Four (2019)

 

Kia Stonic GT-Line

Hyundai Venue Elite

8

8


Nissan Qashqai

The e-Power is included with the rest of the existing Qashqai range in scoring a five-star ANCAP crash-test result in 2021.

It features seven airbags including front-centre and front-to-rear curtain coverage.

You’ll also find front and rear Autonomous Emergency Braking (AEB) with pedestrian, cyclist and back-over detection, blind-spot warning, lane-keep assist systems, adaptive cruise control with full stop-go function, a driver fatigue monitor, auto high beams, traffic sign recognition, front and rear parking sensors, ABS with brake assist, Electronic Brake-force Distribution, hill-start assist, stability control, traction control and a surround-view monitor.

There’s also a vehicle approach sound for pedestrians.

Note that Nissan’s AEB kicks in from 5.0-130km/h, pedestrian and cyclist AEB from 10-80km/h, and the lane support systems work between 60-250km/h.

ISOFIX child-seat latches are fitted to outboard rear seat positions, while a trio of top tethers for straps are included across the rear bench.

Ownership

Kia Stonic

The Stonic is covered by Kia’s seven-year, unlimited-kilometre warranty while the Venue has Hyundai’s five-year, unlimited-kilometre coverage.

The Stonic has capped-price servicing and, averaged over five years, it’s about $430 per year. The Venue doesn’t have capped-price servicing, but you can get a plan which works out at about $315 per year on average for each service.

 

Kia Stonic GT-Line

Hyundai Venue Elite

Warranty length

Five-year/unlimited km

Seven-year/unlimited km

Yearly average service price (over five years)

$432

$315 

Service interval

12mnths/10,000km

12mnths/15,000km

Free roadside assistance 

?

?

 

Kia Stonic GT-Line

Hyundai Venue Elite

8

8


Nissan Qashqai

Like all Qashqais, the Ti e-Power offers a five-year/unlimited kilometre warranty that also includes roadside assistance. Nothing unusual there.

Service intervals are at every 12 months or 10,000km. The latter is 5000km sooner than in the ICE equivalent, by the way.

Nissan also offers a choice of servicing options, starting with the Capped Price Servicing that is nearly a thousand dollars cheaper than the regular ICE versions of the Qashqai over the six-year period as published on the company’s website, at around $2850.

Pay in advance and there’s an additional 10 per cent discount. Of course, terms and conditions apply.