Peugeot 5008 VS Skoda Kodiaq
Peugeot 5008
Likes
- Striking looks
- Great to drive
- Awesome interior
Dislikes
- No reverse-cross traffic alert
- Curtain airbags don't reach third row
- Pricey
Skoda Kodiaq
Likes
- Bigger, better than before
- Cabin tech overhaul
- The keen driver's seven-seat SUV
Dislikes
- Hybrid tech unlikely for Oz initially
- Might be thirsty compared to rivals
- Probably won't be more affordable
Summary
Peugeot 5008
Previously on carsguide.com.au: Peter Anderson drove the Peugeot 5008 and quite liked it.Â
I don't think it's going to be a huge shock to learn that the recent update to the 5008 seven-seater has improved the car and, therefore, my opinion of the car.Â
Except, it's more than an update. Prices are much higher than when I drove the Crossway edition 5008 in 2019 (remember those happy times?) and the difference between the petrol and diesel engines is especially wide now in 2021.
The updated 5008 shares a great deal with its 3008 sibling and the two share a very important attribute - they are distinctively French, in a good way.
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| Fuel Efficiency | 7L/100km |
| Seating | 7 seats |
Skoda Kodiaq
It’s time. Life is calling for a seven-seat SUV.
The thing is, you don’t like to follow the crowd, and you’re not drawn by the Nissan X-Trails, Honda CR-Vs and Kia Sorentos of the world. You’re looking for something a little different, a thinking person’s SUV that stands out.
There’s no better time then, to meet the Skoda Kodiaq. Now entering its second generation with some major upgrades, it could be the right SUV for your family. Does it have what it takes to make the case against those very compelling rivals?
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We drove the Kodiaq in Europe ahead of its Australian arrival to find out.
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Verdict
Peugeot 50087.3/10
The answer is, I think, two-fold - price and badge. Peugeot Australia has a job on its hands to turn things around as 2020 was a tough year and 2021 is shaping up to be almost as hard. There aren't any significant changes to the 5008 to make it suddenly stand out from the crowd because it already did. So the badge's cachet isn't matching the premium pricing.
Peugeot's SUVs are very popular in Europe but barely make a dent here. Because there isn't a bait-and-switch cheaper model to lure buyers off the street, it's a harder sell. Peugeot's glory days of the late 1990s and the late 1970s before mean the people who have fond memories of the badge are older and probably don't have any attachment at all to the French lion. Perhaps the re-energised 2008 will start that conversation, except it's not cheap either.
Having said all that, it's hard to see why folks with over fifty grand to spend on a seven-seater - and there are plenty of those - aren't paying more attention to the 5008. It's a striking presence, is practical but isn't overbearingly large or even slightly clumsy. It may not have AWD but hardly anyone ever uses that. It'll handle the city and the motorway and, as I discovered, biblical rain all in its stride. Like its 3008 sibling, it's a mystery there aren't more out there.
Skoda Kodiaq7.9/10
If you’re already a Skoda buyer, you know the drill. I don’t need to tell you the Kodiaq is a genuine off-beat alternative to the mid-sized seven-seaters of the world.
If you’re a newcomer to the idea of a Kodiaq though, you’d be getting by far the best version yet. Not only is this one bigger and packed full of tech, but it’s also distinctly European in the way it drives, setting it apart from popular nameplates from Japan, Korea, and China.
Keep an eye on CarsGuide in early 2025 for detailed pricing and trim levels for the Australian market.
Note: CarsGuide attended this event as a guest of the manufacturer, with travel, accommodation and meals provided.
Design
Peugeot 50088/10
The 5008 was always the slightly awkward big brother to the 3008. That's not to say it was (or is) ugly, but the bigger box fitted to the back is far less racy than the 3008's fast back.Â
There's not much change at that end, so the cool claw lights carry the can for style.Â
In profile, again, it's a little awkward (compared to the 3008) but some nice work with various materials and shapes help to reduce its bulk.
The front is where the facelift action has happened. I was never completely convinced by the front end of the 5008 but the reworking of the lights to look less like they were squeezed out of a tube of toothpaste is a marked improvement.Â
The updated lights work beautifully with the new frameless grille. The fang-style daytime running lights, that debuted on the gorgeous 508, look fantastic here on the 5008. It's a superb job.
Inside is largely unchanged, which is to say it's still brilliant. It's really one of the more inventive interiors in any car, anywhere and is a joy to sit in.Â
The seats look brilliant, even more so in the diesel with their fine stitching and racy shapes. The wacky 'i-Cockpit' driving position works much better in more upright cars like SUVs and is present and correct while the new 10.0-inch screen also looks good.Â
Even if you're not interested in buying one of these, if you're passing a Peugeot showroom, get in and have a look, feel the materials and wonder why more interiors aren't this cool.
Skoda Kodiaq
Like its Superb sedan sibling, the Kodiaq adopts small changes to a familiar existing formula, despite being significantly upgraded underneath.
The boxy lines of the previous car have been traded out in favour of a few more curves over the wheel arches, while the LED light fittings have been tweaked to keep them looking cutting-edge in an era of more exciting and challenging designs in this SUV space.
It doesn’t rock the boat though. This is still a big oblong of an SUV - but it does lean into the stately quality exuded by larger Skoda models, reflected in its long wheelbase and imposing bonnet height.
Sure, it’s more conservative than BYD’s aquatic Sealion 6 or Hyundai’s Land Rover-emulating Santa Fe, but it also avoids the popular sharp-edged design motifs favoured by the CR-V, RAV4, or Kia Sorento.
The interior receives a massive upgrade, particularly centred around its enormous new 13-inch central touchscreen, but there’s also a pleasing array of soft-touch materials adorning the entire span of the dash, and some nicer highlight trims, too.
The older VW Group switchgear has been swapped out in favour of the latest rotary shifter mounted on the steering column, although the Kodiaq maintains the funky two-spoke steering wheel that appears throughout the brand’s range.
Practicality
Peugeot 50088/10
Legroom is good in the middle row, with plenty of knee space as well as a that long flat roof stopping you from giving yourself a haircut.Â
Each of the front seats has a fold down airline-style tray table, which kids go absolutely wild for.
The third row is really an occasional use only proposition, but it does the job and is reasonably easy to access. The middle row also slides forward (60/40 split) to allow a bit more space for the third row, which is nice.
The 5008 has a trick up its sleeve - removable third-row seats. If you fold the middle row down and remove the back row, you have a massive 2150 litres (VDA) of cargo volume.Â
If you just fold the third row away you still have a formidable 2042 litres. Whip the back row out again but leave the centre row in place and you have a 1060-litre boot, reattach them and it's a still impressive 952 litres. So, it's a massive boot.
The 5008 is rated to tow 1350kg (petrol) or 1800kg (diesel) with a braked trailer, or 600kg (petrol) and 750kg (diesel) without brakes.
Skoda Kodiaq
The space inside the Kodiaq feels enormous no matter which seat you’re in, with a tall roof and plenty of width. Up front, there’s a commanding view of the road, while adjustability for the seats seems extensive (although we only tested a high-spec car with electrically adjustable seats).
The new screens offer sharp software which is much better laid out than before. This makes it relatively easy to find all the functions of the car, although the resolution is so high some shortcuts can be a little hard to jab at.
The real win here is the new set of three rotary dials set below the screen in place of the touch-based sliders in other VW Group products. The two outside dials control the temperature of the climate zone, or it can cycle through the heating and ventilation for the outside seats. The centre dial controls fan speed, drive mode, or volume. It’s even customisable so you can remove functions you don’t want if you’re tired of having to press it a few times to get the function you want.
There’s no shortage of storage up front including large door pockets, cupholders in the centre console, and a massive rubberised tray for the wireless charger which disappears below the rotary dials up front.
The centre console is now enormous and features a set of floating trays that can be removed. These feature conveniently-sized brackets for quick access to keys or wallets, and included here is a little suede-style cleaning block for the touchscreen. It’s part of Skoda’s signature ‘simply clever’ features and I must say I’ve never seen it before, so props to the brand for including something new.
The rear seat is, of course, enormous, offering me plenty of room at 182cm tall behind my own driving position. Unfortunately, this car’s platform requires a significant raise in the floor below the centre seat position, which eats into legroom for centre passengers.
Back here, there’s also plenty of amenities. In the car we tested, which is reflective of what high-spec cars in Australia will be equipped with, there's a rear climate zone (rare for the segment) with an independent controller, adjustable air vents, USB-C ports, and even built-in sunshades and heated outboard seats.
Unfortunately I couldn't test the third row in our brief time with the car, although the second row is on rails, so the amount of room on offer isn’t fixed at any rate. Check back for our Australian launch review for a better analysis of the third row.
With the third row seats folded the boot offers an impressive 910 litres of space, or an ambitious 340L with the third row up. It also has its share of ‘clever’ touches, like velcro cargo dividers, an included cargo net (in addition to the sliding cover), and bag hooks on either side.
Price and features
Peugeot 50087/10
Peugeot's local arm is pitching the 5008 at an interesting point. While nowhere near the largest of seven-seaters, it is also not the cheapest, that honour going to Peugeot's former technical partner for SUVs, Mitsubishi.Â
There is now just one specification level (although it isn't really), the GT and you can have it in petrol form for (deep breath) $51,990, or diesel form (keep drawing that long breath) $59,990. That's a lot of cash.
But as I say, the spec is not the same between the two. And there is a lot of stuff.
The petrol GT opens with 18-inch wheels, a 12.3-inch digital dashboard (upgraded, apparently), a new 10.0-inch touchscreen (ditto), front and rear parking sensors, around-view cameras, leather and Alcantara seats, keyless entry and start, auto parking, adaptive cruise control, powered tailgate, rear window blinds, auto LED headlights, auto wipers and a space-saver spare.
The more expensive diesel picks up the diesel engine (obviously), a banging Focal-branded 10-speaker stereo, acoustic laminated front side windows and 19-inch alloys.Â
The diesel GT's front seats are also upgraded, with extra adjustability, a massage function, heating, memory function and electrical operation of just about everything on them.
Both versions have the new 10.0-inch multimedia touchscreen. The older screen was slow and really needed a good stab to work, which is a bit of a problem when so many functions are packed into the system.Â
The new one is better, but still a touch laggy. Weirdly, the climate control shortcuts permanently frame the screen, so the extra real estate goes on those controls.
The diesel GT's seats are available as an option on the petrol as part of a $3590 option pack. The pack also adds the Nappa leather, which itself is a separate option for $2590 on that upper-spec model. Neither pack is cheap (but the Nappa leather is lovely) and the massage seats are more than a novelty.
Other option costs are $1990 for a sunroof and $2590 for Nappa leather (diesel only).
Just one paint colour, 'Sunset Copper', is free. The rest are extra. For $690 you can choose 'Celebes Blue', 'Nera Black', 'Artense Grey', or 'Platinum Grey.' 'Ultimate Red' and 'Pearl White' cost $1050.
Skoda Kodiaq
Because we’re testing European cars and the company hasn’t even started building right-hand drive examples for Australia, it’s too early to tell what the price will be, but Skoda tells us for now to expect it to stay around the same level as the outgoing car.
That should mean you can pick up a base model from the mid-$50k region, with high-spec versions reaching to the high $60-grand bracket.
When it comes to variants, we can expect there to be a new entry-level Select version with boosted standard equipment. From there, it’s likely we’ll see a more luxurious option pack and a self-explanatory Sportline version reflecting the current range. A replacement for the outgoing top-spec RS is yet to be confirmed.
This price region puts the Kodiaq in close competition with some notable rivals. In the seven-seat SUV space this includes the Nissan X-Trail, Honda CR-V, and outgoing Volkswagen Tiguan Allspace.
Half a size (and price-bracket) up will net you versions of the cool-looking Kia Sorento or the dramatically redesigned Hyundai Santa Fe, notably both cars available as hybrids, while the Kodiaq won’t be.
We’ll talk about powertrains later, but standard equipment will be bumped to include a 13-inch multimedia touchscreen with slick new software, as well as wireless Apple CarPlay and Android Auto connectivity. There’s also an upgraded version of the VW Group digital instrument cluster, an improved array of switchgear and extended soft-touch interior materials.
What will be missing for the Australian launch is the full array of connected services features that were included in the Euro-spec cars we tested.
Keep an eye out for final spec closer to the Kodiaq’s Australian on-sale date in quarter one 2025.
Under the bonnet
Peugeot 50087/10
As the names of the cars suggest, there is a petrol and diesel engine. Both drive the front wheels only through automatic transmissions.
The petrol is a 1.6-litre four-cylinder turbo, with 121kW at 6000rpm and 240Nm from 1400rpm. The petrol scores a six-speed automatic and will cover the 0-100km/h run in 10.5 seconds.
For torque monsters, the diesel is the go, with 131kW at 3750rpm and 400Nm from 2000rpm. This engine scores two more gears for a total of eight and will run from 0-100km/h in 10.2 seconds.Â
So neither of them are drag racers, which is to be expected when you've got a fair chunk of weight to pull (1473kg for the petrol, 1575kg for the diesel).
Skoda Kodiaq
Expect evolution not revolution here, with the Kodiaq likely to maintain a 2.0-litre turbocharged petrol engine and all-wheel drive in the Australian market.
This is likely to be an updated version of the engine in the current outgoing model, which in overseas spec produces 150kW/320Nm. It is not in production yet, so the car we drove for this test was a 2.0-litre turbo diesel (which won’t be launching in Australia) producing 142kW/400Nm. Either way, expect a seven-speed dual-clutch automatic transmission.
Frustratingly, we won’t be getting hybrids of any kind, at least at launch. Overseas, the Kodiaq is available with a 1.5-litre turbocharged four-cylinder engine in either mild hybrid (MHEV) or ‘iV’ plug-in hybrid (PHEV) forms.
Efficiency
Peugeot 50087/10
Peugeot says the combined cycle figure for the petrol is 7.0L/100km and 5.0L/100km for the diesel. The petrol figure seems sort of likely, the diesel, not so sure.
I ran the lighter 3008 for six months with the same engine (but with two fewer gears, granted) and it averaged closer to 8.0L/100km. The last time I had the 5008 I got 9.3L/100km.
As I drove these cars on the launch event (mostly highway running), the dash-indicated 7.5L/100km figure I saw is not a reliable indicator of real-world consumption.Â
Both tanks hold 56 litres, so based on the official figures, you'll cover around 800km in the petrol and over 1000km in the diesel. Bank on a day-to-day range about 150km lower than that.
Skoda Kodiaq
Expect similar fuel consumption to the outgoing car which sits at 8.2L/100km. VW Group turbocharged engines require 95RON unleaded fuel and the new Kodiaq has a variable fuel tank size depending on the engine. Check back closer to its local arrival to see more accurate figures for Australia.
It is unfortunate that it seems hybrid powertrains won’t be making it to our shores, at least in the short term, which will make it difficult for the Kodiaq to compete with hybrid versions of the Kia Sorento, Hyundai Santa Fe and Honda CR-V on the fuel efficiency front.
Driving
Peugeot 50087/10
Once you're comfortable with the i-Cockpit, which features a high dashboard and a tiny, squared-off steering wheel, you'll feel like you're driving a much smaller car.Â
I have theorised over the years that the light steering coupled with the small steering wheel makes it feel more dynamic than it is, but I think that's wrong - it's genuinely well set-up and is a car in which you can have some fun.
I was only able to drive the 1.6-litre petrol with six-speed auto on launch and that was on a horrifically wet day during Sydney's recent deluge.Â
The M5 motorway was covered in standing water and the spray from the big rigs made driving conditions rather more difficult than usual.Â
The 5008 sailed through it all (pun intended). That engine is hardly the last word in power and torque, but it does the job and the auto is well-calibrated to the numbers.Â
The big Michelin tyres bite the tarmac pretty well and while you always feel the weight of a seven-seater SUV, it drives much more like a raised wagon than a doughy SUV.Â
Fewer of its rivals are doughy these days, but there's a little bit of spark in the 5008, matching the promise of its looks.Â
It's not quick, and it's not a hot SUV, but every time I get in this or its smaller 3008 sibling I ask myself why more people don't buy them.
It's irritating that the diesel costs so much more if you want that extra in-gear performance and another two gears.
Skoda Kodiaq
Like its immediate relations, the Skoda Superb and incoming third-generation Tiguan, the Kodiaq’s upgraded platform comes with some notable enhancements when it comes to the experience behind the wheel.
Core changes to suspension and rigidity to the platform make for a big SUV which feels surprisingly reactive in the corners, which is doubled-down on thanks to accurate steering.
It also responds nicely to a prod of the accelerator thanks to punchy engine options and the dual-clutch auto which shifts fast and unlike a CVT lets you ride the gears out for better power delivery.
We only sampled the more powerful of two 2.0-litre four-cylinder turbo-diesel engines, although the 2.0-litre turbocharged petrol unit which we know will ship in Australia is an upgraded version of an existing well-loved engine that will only perform better with less lag.
Sure, the Kodiaq is further off the ground and heavier than some of its VW Group contemporaries, and has to work harder to tame these factors, but it’s rare in the seven-seat SUV segment to have this much fun behind the wheel.
The X-Trail and CR-V for example, may be a little smoother in traffic, especially in hybrid forms, but even cars with comparable dual-clutch set-ups like the Kia Sorento and Hyundai Santa Fe can’t compare to the Kodiaq in terms of driver engagement.
Ride quality for those moments on less than impressive road surfaces was hard to gauge on the finely-crafted European roads we drove the Kodiaq on, but the previous car was already good and I’d expect the upgraded suspension on this new one to feel even better.
Even the improved switchgear (specifically, those new control dials), and the minimally invasive active safety equipment adds to the Skoda’s appeal.
If you need seven seats, you like to drive, and you don’t want to spend truly premium dollars, it’s hard to get better in this segment.
Safety
Peugeot 50087/10
The 5008 lands with six airbags, ABS, various stability, traction and braking systems, speed limit sign recognition, driver attention detection, distance warning, lane keep assist, lane departure warning, road edge detection, auto high beam, reversing camera and around-view cameras.
The diesel picks up lane positioning assist while none of them have reverse cross-traffic alert. Equally annoying is the fact that the curtain airbags don't reach to the back row.
The forward AEB includes low light cyclist and pedestrian detection between 5.0km/h and 140km/h, which is impressive.Â
There are three ISOFIX and three top-tether mounts in the middle row and two top-tether restraints in the removable third row.
The 5008 scored a maximum five ANCAP stars in 2017.
Skoda Kodiaq
We don’t have final spec for the Australian market, but expect the Kodiaq to maintain all the key active safety items as standard.
These include auto emergency braking (to freeway speeds), lane keep assist with departure warning, blind spot monitoring and rear cross-traffic alert. Additionally, the Kodiaq gets traffic sign recognition, an upgraded driver attention alert, and an auto-parking suite.
It is also now better at detecting objects and vehicles around it thanks to a new set of ‘nano radar’ sensors in both the front and rear bumpers.
The new Kodiaq has nine airbags and was recently awarded a maximum five-star EuroNCAP rating. Tune back in closer to its Australian arrival in Q1 of 2025 to see whether the safety rating transfers across to ANCAP.
Ownership
Peugeot 50087/10
Peugeot's five year/unlimited kilometre warranty is now pretty standard but always welcome. You also five years of roadside assist and five years/100,000km of fixed price servicing.
Interestingly, the service prices aren't much different between the petrol and diesel, with the former costing $2803 over five years ($560 per year on average) and $2841 for the latter ($568.20 per year on average).Â
You have to visit your Peugeot dealer once every 12 months/20,000km, which isn't too bad. Some turbo-engined cars in this segment demand more visits or won't cover as many kilometres between services.
Skoda Kodiaq
Skoda is the first European brand to take a shot at a seven-year and unlimited kilometre warranty, so points there for moving the game forward.
On top of that, you can expect the usual seven-year pre-paid service pack the brand offers on its other models, although check back in for the details as they become available in Australia. Generally these packs strike a reasonable middle ground between the affordable servicing of brands like Toyota and the more expensive Subaru.
Skoda is also currently pushing a guaranteed future value program and favourable finance with more transparent terms than some of its competitors. Check back in early 2025 for all the numbers.