Subaru Forester VS Skoda Kodiaq
Subaru Forester
Likes
- Hard to beat practicality
- Easy driving experience
- Ride height and capability
Dislikes
- Uninspiring drivetrain
- Price getting steep
- Potential thirst for fuel
Skoda Kodiaq
Likes
- Bigger, better than before
- Cabin tech overhaul
- The keen driver's seven-seat SUV
Dislikes
- Hybrid tech unlikely for Oz initially
- Might be thirsty compared to rivals
- Probably won't be more affordable
Summary
Subaru Forester
There’s a new top dog in the Subaru Forester family (without getting into the hybrids, that is), and it’s wearing an STI badge.
But don’t get too excited about it, because this isn’t a full-blown piece of engineering from Subaru Tecnica International - rather a slightly modified special edition based on a high-spec Forester.
Is it worthy of the iconic pink badge? Or more importantly, is it worthy of your money? We’re putting this kitted-out version of Subaru’s likeable family SUV to the test to find out.
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Skoda Kodiaq
It’s time. Life is calling for a seven-seat SUV.
The thing is, you don’t like to follow the crowd, and you’re not drawn by the Nissan X-Trails, Honda CR-Vs and Kia Sorentos of the world. You’re looking for something a little different, a thinking person’s SUV that stands out.
There’s no better time then, to meet the Skoda Kodiaq. Now entering its second generation with some major upgrades, it could be the right SUV for your family. Does it have what it takes to make the case against those very compelling rivals?
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- Why this electric SUV won't suffer the same fate as the Tesla Model Y and BYD Seal
We drove the Kodiaq in Europe ahead of its Australian arrival to find out.
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Verdict
Subaru Forester7.5/10
Don’t let the 7.5/10 make you think the Forester is not a good car. For the person who needs a practical, off-road-capable mid-size family SUV without too many complications, it’s extremely hard to look past this thing.
Is the STI Sport the best choice in the range? Not for most, given its higher price and relative lack of extra ability to go with it. A standard suspension tune and even a slightly less plush interior are probably a better call for most family needs, which means saving a fair bit at the purchase.
It’s also worth noting that the next generation Forester is coming soon, and with that could come a price hike. If a Forester is on the shopping list but the cost of living is starting to bite, now might be the time.
If the slightly sharper handling and red interior leather is of interest to you, the STI Sport might be worth a look, but just know the Forester’s best attributes can be had for less money in a much cheaper variant.
Skoda Kodiaq7.9/10
If you’re already a Skoda buyer, you know the drill. I don’t need to tell you the Kodiaq is a genuine off-beat alternative to the mid-sized seven-seaters of the world.
If you’re a newcomer to the idea of a Kodiaq though, you’d be getting by far the best version yet. Not only is this one bigger and packed full of tech, but it’s also distinctly European in the way it drives, setting it apart from popular nameplates from Japan, Korea, and China.
Keep an eye on CarsGuide in early 2025 for detailed pricing and trim levels for the Australian market.
Note: CarsGuide attended this event as a guest of the manufacturer, with travel, accommodation and meals provided.
Design
Subaru Forester
The Forester is a pretty good-looking thing in this writer’s eyes, but its design hasn’t changed dramatically in the last few years.
The mid-size SUV looks equally at home on inner-city residential streets and in the middle of nowhere, even with the slightly ‘sported-up’ black trim of the STI version. And I do mean ‘slightly’.
Aside from the fact it looks a lot like the Forester 2.5i Sport of a few years ago (without the red bits), the STI Sport is perhaps ironically unadventurous. Even its alloy wheels don’t scream ‘sports’.
For all the SUVs with their respective brands’ performance badging (and not engineering) attached to them that bear more bark than bite, maybe it’s not such a bad thing Subaru has refrained from putting the Forester in full Tecnica uniform.
Inside, however, the black and red leather seems determined to distract from the fact that not much else has changed cabin-wise. It feels visually busier than it needs to, but still falls on the correct side of the restrained/garish line.
But there’s probably a reason the interior feels a little bit ‘classic Subie’ - if it works, it might pay to avoid making big changes.
Skoda Kodiaq
Like its Superb sedan sibling, the Kodiaq adopts small changes to a familiar existing formula, despite being significantly upgraded underneath.
The boxy lines of the previous car have been traded out in favour of a few more curves over the wheel arches, while the LED light fittings have been tweaked to keep them looking cutting-edge in an era of more exciting and challenging designs in this SUV space.
It doesn’t rock the boat though. This is still a big oblong of an SUV - but it does lean into the stately quality exuded by larger Skoda models, reflected in its long wheelbase and imposing bonnet height.
Sure, it’s more conservative than BYD’s aquatic Sealion 6 or Hyundai’s Land Rover-emulating Santa Fe, but it also avoids the popular sharp-edged design motifs favoured by the CR-V, RAV4, or Kia Sorento.
The interior receives a massive upgrade, particularly centred around its enormous new 13-inch central touchscreen, but there’s also a pleasing array of soft-touch materials adorning the entire span of the dash, and some nicer highlight trims, too.
The older VW Group switchgear has been swapped out in favour of the latest rotary shifter mounted on the steering column, although the Kodiaq maintains the funky two-spoke steering wheel that appears throughout the brand’s range.
Practicality
Subaru Forester
I've heard the Forester called a ‘jack of all trades, master of none’ kind of car, and I reckon that’s unfair. Aside from having Subaru’s venerable all-wheel drive at its disposal, the Forester is a supremely practical SUV - exactly what it needs to be given the reasons most people buy SUVs.
Okay, so the interface and tech is pretty old. If you’ve been in a Forester built in the last few years, there’s not a lot new to find.
There are some deliberately large buttons, the climate controls are still very classic and tactile, even the steering wheel buttons are pretty chunky.
If you’re not used to the amount of technology in new cars, Subaru has tried to make this as easy as possible to navigate.
I hate to sound like one of those ‘back in my day’ people, but in a lot of cases I’m finding myself preferring interior layouts and controls of a few years ago rather than post-2020 screens and ‘iPad’ style controls.
Newer Subarus have a rather large portrait centre screen, and even though it works fine, this one with the buttons below it is easier.
The instrument cluster being a pair of physical dials is also welcome, even if it means the digital display looks many years older than the car really is.
It’s also a spacious cabin, if not just physically then in feeling also. The huge sunroof and high-visibility glasshouse means plenty of light comes in and makes it feel roomy while also of course being easy to see out of (and therefore, manoeuvre).
Ergonomically, the Subie is sound. The seating position, aforementioned driver visibility, controls placement and space around each passenger is practical and well thought out, plus moving back into the second row doesn’t feel like a huge comfort downgrade.
Light in the second row is also good, the seats recline and the touch-point materials are like the front seats - comfy leather and a lack of scratchy plastics unless you go looking for them.
The second row can also be folded down (in a 60/40 split) from the boot with controls near the electric tailgate, which brings the boot space from 498 litres to 1060L, though Subaru says maximum space available is 1740L up to the ceiling.
Skoda Kodiaq
The space inside the Kodiaq feels enormous no matter which seat you’re in, with a tall roof and plenty of width. Up front, there’s a commanding view of the road, while adjustability for the seats seems extensive (although we only tested a high-spec car with electrically adjustable seats).
The new screens offer sharp software which is much better laid out than before. This makes it relatively easy to find all the functions of the car, although the resolution is so high some shortcuts can be a little hard to jab at.
The real win here is the new set of three rotary dials set below the screen in place of the touch-based sliders in other VW Group products. The two outside dials control the temperature of the climate zone, or it can cycle through the heating and ventilation for the outside seats. The centre dial controls fan speed, drive mode, or volume. It’s even customisable so you can remove functions you don’t want if you’re tired of having to press it a few times to get the function you want.
There’s no shortage of storage up front including large door pockets, cupholders in the centre console, and a massive rubberised tray for the wireless charger which disappears below the rotary dials up front.
The centre console is now enormous and features a set of floating trays that can be removed. These feature conveniently-sized brackets for quick access to keys or wallets, and included here is a little suede-style cleaning block for the touchscreen. It’s part of Skoda’s signature ‘simply clever’ features and I must say I’ve never seen it before, so props to the brand for including something new.
The rear seat is, of course, enormous, offering me plenty of room at 182cm tall behind my own driving position. Unfortunately, this car’s platform requires a significant raise in the floor below the centre seat position, which eats into legroom for centre passengers.
Back here, there’s also plenty of amenities. In the car we tested, which is reflective of what high-spec cars in Australia will be equipped with, there's a rear climate zone (rare for the segment) with an independent controller, adjustable air vents, USB-C ports, and even built-in sunshades and heated outboard seats.
Unfortunately I couldn't test the third row in our brief time with the car, although the second row is on rails, so the amount of room on offer isn’t fixed at any rate. Check back for our Australian launch review for a better analysis of the third row.
With the third row seats folded the boot offers an impressive 910 litres of space, or an ambitious 340L with the third row up. It also has its share of ‘clever’ touches, like velcro cargo dividers, an included cargo net (in addition to the sliding cover), and bag hooks on either side.
Price and features
Subaru Forester
At $48,640, before on-road costs, the Forester STI Sport AWD (to use its full name) has some strong competition - there are high-spec AWD hybrid Toyota RAV4 GXLs, powerful front-drive SUVs like the Ford Escape Vignale and Hyundai Tucson N-Line hybrid, or even variants of Euros like the VW Tiguan and Renault Koleos all within $1000 of the STI Sport’s sticker price.
But those looking for the practicality the mix of Subaru’s AWD, the space inside, and perhaps even the slightly older interior can provide, there’s a decent list of features for a car coming in at just a slice under ‘fifty large’.
The STI Sport AWD is based on the top-spec (petrol) Forester 2.5i-S, so it shares plenty of standard features - read on for those - but the key additions for this variant include a suspension tune by the eponymous performance division, a combination black and ‘Bordeaux Red’ interior leather with red contrast stitching, STI badging inside and out, dark grey 18-inch alloy wheels and black exterior trim for the grille, mirrors, roof rails and light surrounds.
From the Forester 2.5i-S, the STI Sport also brings along the existing leather seats and trim, with power-adjustable fronts which are also heated, plus the other main interior features like the 8.0-inch touchscreen for multimedia with wired Android Auto and Apple CarPlay, an eight-speaker Harman Kardon sound system with subwoofer and amp and a large electric sunroof.
It’s lacking some more modern features like wireless phone mirroring, wireless phone charging, USB-C ports or a fully digital driver display, but the latter of those is certainly no great loss.
On the outside, the existing self-levelling LED headlights with cornering response, LED DRLs and fog lights, privacy glass, roof rails and electric tailgate all also carry over from the 2.5i-S.
There are certainly rivals with more features, but they require trade-offs in other areas that might not appeal to Subaru customers.
Skoda Kodiaq
Because we’re testing European cars and the company hasn’t even started building right-hand drive examples for Australia, it’s too early to tell what the price will be, but Skoda tells us for now to expect it to stay around the same level as the outgoing car.
That should mean you can pick up a base model from the mid-$50k region, with high-spec versions reaching to the high $60-grand bracket.
When it comes to variants, we can expect there to be a new entry-level Select version with boosted standard equipment. From there, it’s likely we’ll see a more luxurious option pack and a self-explanatory Sportline version reflecting the current range. A replacement for the outgoing top-spec RS is yet to be confirmed.
This price region puts the Kodiaq in close competition with some notable rivals. In the seven-seat SUV space this includes the Nissan X-Trail, Honda CR-V, and outgoing Volkswagen Tiguan Allspace.
Half a size (and price-bracket) up will net you versions of the cool-looking Kia Sorento or the dramatically redesigned Hyundai Santa Fe, notably both cars available as hybrids, while the Kodiaq won’t be.
We’ll talk about powertrains later, but standard equipment will be bumped to include a 13-inch multimedia touchscreen with slick new software, as well as wireless Apple CarPlay and Android Auto connectivity. There’s also an upgraded version of the VW Group digital instrument cluster, an improved array of switchgear and extended soft-touch interior materials.
What will be missing for the Australian launch is the full array of connected services features that were included in the Euro-spec cars we tested.
Keep an eye out for final spec closer to the Kodiaq’s Australian on-sale date in quarter one 2025.
Under the bonnet
Subaru Forester
The same drivetrain as is used in the 2.5i-S is found in the STI Sport AWD.
No prizes for anyone who guessed it’s a 2.5-litre flat-four engine, but some might be disappointed to know that means no turbocharging and no sporty transmission - the STI Sport still outputs 136kW and 239Nm via a continuously variable transmission (CVT).
Subaru’s ever-present ‘symmetrical’ all-wheel drive system is, of course, here in the Forester too, but the brand’s relatively recent foray into hybrid drivetrains was given a miss for this version.
Skoda Kodiaq
Expect evolution not revolution here, with the Kodiaq likely to maintain a 2.0-litre turbocharged petrol engine and all-wheel drive in the Australian market.
This is likely to be an updated version of the engine in the current outgoing model, which in overseas spec produces 150kW/320Nm. It is not in production yet, so the car we drove for this test was a 2.0-litre turbo diesel (which won’t be launching in Australia) producing 142kW/400Nm. Either way, expect a seven-speed dual-clutch automatic transmission.
Frustratingly, we won’t be getting hybrids of any kind, at least at launch. Overseas, the Kodiaq is available with a 1.5-litre turbocharged four-cylinder engine in either mild hybrid (MHEV) or ‘iV’ plug-in hybrid (PHEV) forms.
Efficiency
Subaru Forester
Subaru claims a 7.4L/100km combined cycle (urban/extra-urban) fuel consumption figure for the STI Sport AWD, and while we’ve seen tests come close to that in other variants of the Forester with the same drivetrain, inner-city life can be a detriment to the Forester’s drinking habits.
On a test loop which was fairly unsympathetic to fuel efficiency, the Forester’s trip computer reported a 10.2L/100km figure, though a commute from inner-Melbourne to the CBD saw the digits nudge 13.0.
Historically, highway driving has been better for the Forester, and the STI Sport should be no different - plus its 63-litre fuel tank (able to run on 91 RON) should mean if you can approach Subaru’s claimed fuel consumption figure, you could theoretically find yourself driving more than 800km on a single tank.
Skoda Kodiaq
Expect similar fuel consumption to the outgoing car which sits at 8.2L/100km. VW Group turbocharged engines require 95RON unleaded fuel and the new Kodiaq has a variable fuel tank size depending on the engine. Check back closer to its local arrival to see more accurate figures for Australia.
It is unfortunate that it seems hybrid powertrains won’t be making it to our shores, at least in the short term, which will make it difficult for the Kodiaq to compete with hybrid versions of the Kia Sorento, Hyundai Santa Fe and Honda CR-V on the fuel efficiency front.
Driving
Subaru Forester
Like much of the Forester STI, the driving experience is heavily borrowed from some tried and true Subaru characteristics.
That naturally aspirated flat-four engine, though underwhelming on paper, gets the job done without much fuss. In fact, it sometimes feels peppier than it should given its outputs.
Its 'S/I' (Sport or Intelligent) drive mode selector is there to adjust acceleration style, but it doesn’t make an enormous difference.
Yes, it could do with more torque, but the engine doesn’t struggle and only starts to sound laboured at high revs during the kind of acceleration you’d need for seconds at a time.
The sound of a CVT whirring away isn’t exactly auditory bliss, nor does it make for engaging acceleration.
But it’s relatively quiet under regular load below highway speed and, as long as the road isn’t too coarse, NVH is generally good in the Forester.
Road, wind and engine noise are certainly present in certain circumstances, but they’re not intrusive until you get to higher speeds.
At those high speeds is where you might notice one of the most significant changes to the STI version of the Forester - the dampers have been retuned by STI, for what Subaru hopes is a “sharper, more responsive driving experience”.
It’s hard to seriously call the Forester sharp - it’s a mid-size family SUV with enough clearance to go light off-roading - but the STI Sport holds up well for what it is.
The Forester driving experience was already likeable and easy, and in terms of cornering and handling bumpy rural (or even just bumpy urban) roads, the suspension keeps things under control without feeling too stiff.
Its body doesn’t roll as much as you might expect when cornering, but given STI’s engineers focused their efforts on the dampers, its a good thing the Forester doesn’t either waft or thud when presented with big sharp bumps, nor does it vibrate and rattle over constant rough surfaces.
Of course, it’s also got 'X Mode' controls for different surfaces like snow, dirt and mud, making it a pretty handy companion for outdoor adventuring or camping trips in regions where the weather gets a bit unpredictable. If you’ve ever tried to get a front-wheel drive hatchback out of a muddy hillside campsite…
Essentially, the Forester is the kind of SUV that, if you wanted to, you could have a medium amount of fun with on a twisty road before taking it down a particularly rough, unsealed or muddy trail, then later hand the keys to your grandma knowing she’d be able to handle everything about the driving experience, too.
Skoda Kodiaq
Like its immediate relations, the Skoda Superb and incoming third-generation Tiguan, the Kodiaq’s upgraded platform comes with some notable enhancements when it comes to the experience behind the wheel.
Core changes to suspension and rigidity to the platform make for a big SUV which feels surprisingly reactive in the corners, which is doubled-down on thanks to accurate steering.
It also responds nicely to a prod of the accelerator thanks to punchy engine options and the dual-clutch auto which shifts fast and unlike a CVT lets you ride the gears out for better power delivery.
We only sampled the more powerful of two 2.0-litre four-cylinder turbo-diesel engines, although the 2.0-litre turbocharged petrol unit which we know will ship in Australia is an upgraded version of an existing well-loved engine that will only perform better with less lag.
Sure, the Kodiaq is further off the ground and heavier than some of its VW Group contemporaries, and has to work harder to tame these factors, but it’s rare in the seven-seat SUV segment to have this much fun behind the wheel.
The X-Trail and CR-V for example, may be a little smoother in traffic, especially in hybrid forms, but even cars with comparable dual-clutch set-ups like the Kia Sorento and Hyundai Santa Fe can’t compare to the Kodiaq in terms of driver engagement.
Ride quality for those moments on less than impressive road surfaces was hard to gauge on the finely-crafted European roads we drove the Kodiaq on, but the previous car was already good and I’d expect the upgraded suspension on this new one to feel even better.
Even the improved switchgear (specifically, those new control dials), and the minimally invasive active safety equipment adds to the Skoda’s appeal.
If you need seven seats, you like to drive, and you don’t want to spend truly premium dollars, it’s hard to get better in this segment.
Safety
Subaru Forester
The Forester holds a maximum five-star ANCAP rating from assessment in 2019, which sounds outdated but arguably the most important aspects of the ANCAP testing are the crash protection, for which the Forester scored highly - an extremely good 94 per cent for adult occupant protection and 86 per cent for child occupant protection.
Seven airbags including dual frontal, side chest, curtain airbags and a driver knee airbag keep occupants protected, while Subaru notes the engine’s low-centred nature means it’s designed to slip under rather than into the cabin cell in case of a frontal collision.
Its active safety systems have been kept up to date, with functions like lane-keep assist, driver monitoring, automatic reverse braking and the help of Subaru’s ‘EyeSight’ monitoring system are all welcome additions, particularly since they’re not as intrusive as some rivals.
The lane-keep assist, for example, only beeps (relatively calmly) and intervenes when the Forester actually approaches the lane edge, and the driver monitoring and speed warning systems don’t chime or give warnings unless something is actually going wrong.
Like the multimedia and interior layout, the active safety is one area where the most recent previous generation of common features seems to be better than those many manufacturers are now implementing.
Skoda Kodiaq
We don’t have final spec for the Australian market, but expect the Kodiaq to maintain all the key active safety items as standard.
These include auto emergency braking (to freeway speeds), lane keep assist with departure warning, blind spot monitoring and rear cross-traffic alert. Additionally, the Kodiaq gets traffic sign recognition, an upgraded driver attention alert, and an auto-parking suite.
It is also now better at detecting objects and vehicles around it thanks to a new set of ‘nano radar’ sensors in both the front and rear bumpers.
The new Kodiaq has nine airbags and was recently awarded a maximum five-star EuroNCAP rating. Tune back in closer to its Australian arrival in Q1 of 2025 to see whether the safety rating transfers across to ANCAP.
Ownership
Subaru Forester
Subaru’s five-year/unlimited kilometre warranty is now considered the minimum par-for-course coverage for a mainstream new car in Australia, while some rivals are offering seven-, eight- or even 10-year warranties (though the longer one are sometimes conditional).
Subaru also offers 12 months of roadside assistance, though this is also often offered in similar lengths to warranties by competitors.
Servicing intervals for the Forester are every 12,500km or 12 months, with the first of five capped price services (aside from a free one-month check-up) costing $370.91 and the most expensive (fourth) costing $888.62.
A $1387.25 three-year service contract or a $2674.64 five-year plan are on offer.
Skoda Kodiaq
Skoda is the first European brand to take a shot at a seven-year and unlimited kilometre warranty, so points there for moving the game forward.
On top of that, you can expect the usual seven-year pre-paid service pack the brand offers on its other models, although check back in for the details as they become available in Australia. Generally these packs strike a reasonable middle ground between the affordable servicing of brands like Toyota and the more expensive Subaru.
Skoda is also currently pushing a guaranteed future value program and favourable finance with more transparent terms than some of its competitors. Check back in early 2025 for all the numbers.