Subaru Forester VS Honda CR-V
Subaru Forester
Likes
- Hard to beat practicality
- Easy driving experience
- Ride height and capability
Dislikes
- Uninspiring drivetrain
- Price getting steep
- Potential thirst for fuel
Honda CR-V
Likes
- Exceptional value for money
- Superb engineering
- Excellent family-focused packaging
Dislikes
- No full-sized spare wheel
- No hybrid AWD availability
- Firm ride
Summary
Subaru Forester
There’s a new top dog in the Subaru Forester family (without getting into the hybrids, that is), and it’s wearing an STI badge.
But don’t get too excited about it, because this isn’t a full-blown piece of engineering from Subaru Tecnica International - rather a slightly modified special edition based on a high-spec Forester.
Is it worthy of the iconic pink badge? Or more importantly, is it worthy of your money? We’re putting this kitted-out version of Subaru’s likeable family SUV to the test to find out.
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| Engine Type | 2.5L |
| Fuel Type | — |
| Fuel Efficiency | 7.4L/100km |
| Seating | 5 seats |
Honda CR-V
In the distant future, automotive historians will look back at the Honda CR-V as one of the true SUV originals.
Sure, it and the conceptually-identical Subaru Forester, trailed the trendsetting Toyota RAV4 of 1994 by three years, but collectively all three Japanese brands broke and then reset the Australian family-car mould in lightning-quick time. Too much so for the floundering local car industry to ever catch up.
Today, they remain the blue-chip mid-sized SUV contenders.
Six generations in, how does the completely-redesigned CR-V in all-new e:HEV (petrol-electric hybrid) guise stack up? Let's find out!
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| Engine Type | 2.0L |
| Fuel Type | — |
| Fuel Efficiency | 5.5L/100km |
| Seating | 5 seats |
Verdict
Subaru Forester7.5/10
Don’t let the 7.5/10 make you think the Forester is not a good car. For the person who needs a practical, off-road-capable mid-size family SUV without too many complications, it’s extremely hard to look past this thing.
Is the STI Sport the best choice in the range? Not for most, given its higher price and relative lack of extra ability to go with it. A standard suspension tune and even a slightly less plush interior are probably a better call for most family needs, which means saving a fair bit at the purchase.
It’s also worth noting that the next generation Forester is coming soon, and with that could come a price hike. If a Forester is on the shopping list but the cost of living is starting to bite, now might be the time.
If the slightly sharper handling and red interior leather is of interest to you, the STI Sport might be worth a look, but just know the Forester’s best attributes can be had for less money in a much cheaper variant.
Honda CR-V8.5/10
The most-expensive version of the latest Honda CR-V is one of the most convincing family-orientated mid-sized SUVs in Australia, regardless of price and positioning.
For efficiency, economy, driveability, packaging, safety, quality, refinement and value-for-money, it is an outstanding value proposition. Don't buy a RAV4 or Forester hybrid before checking this one out.
We cannot wait for the e:HEV hybrid powertrain to filter down to cheaper grades, to make the best CR-V in decades even more accessible.
Design
Subaru Forester
The Forester is a pretty good-looking thing in this writer’s eyes, but its design hasn’t changed dramatically in the last few years.
The mid-size SUV looks equally at home on inner-city residential streets and in the middle of nowhere, even with the slightly ‘sported-up’ black trim of the STI version. And I do mean ‘slightly’.
Aside from the fact it looks a lot like the Forester 2.5i Sport of a few years ago (without the red bits), the STI Sport is perhaps ironically unadventurous. Even its alloy wheels don’t scream ‘sports’.
For all the SUVs with their respective brands’ performance badging (and not engineering) attached to them that bear more bark than bite, maybe it’s not such a bad thing Subaru has refrained from putting the Forester in full Tecnica uniform.
Inside, however, the black and red leather seems determined to distract from the fact that not much else has changed cabin-wise. It feels visually busier than it needs to, but still falls on the correct side of the restrained/garish line.
But there’s probably a reason the interior feels a little bit ‘classic Subie’ - if it works, it might pay to avoid making big changes.
Honda CR-V
Though considered handsome, the CR-V has never been a style leader. Function over form has always been its calling card, and Number Six is no exception.
Cleanly drawn, with boxy proportions and a blunter, squarer nose providing a contemporary if somewhat bland appearance, the Thai-built Honda lives on the larger end of the mid-sized SUV scale, resulting in lots of space and practicality.
Yet there are interesting and worthwhile details to explore, like narrower-than-usual windscreen pillars for exceptional forward vision.
The same applies to the considered positioning of the exterior mirrors, minimising blind spots, while deep glass areas allow light to flood in.
The stylish, Volvo-esque L-shaped tail-light graphic probably connects most clearly with past CR-Vs, giving the latest version an elegant overall presence.
Compared to the old model, the latest version's wheelbase has been stretched by 40mm to 2700mm, while front and rear tracks are 10mm wider, coming in at 1611mm and 1627mm, respectively.
Note that the front-drive models' ground clearance is 198mm – 10mm less than on the (non-hybrid-only) AWD grades.
Practicality
Subaru Forester
I've heard the Forester called a ‘jack of all trades, master of none’ kind of car, and I reckon that’s unfair. Aside from having Subaru’s venerable all-wheel drive at its disposal, the Forester is a supremely practical SUV - exactly what it needs to be given the reasons most people buy SUVs.
Okay, so the interface and tech is pretty old. If you’ve been in a Forester built in the last few years, there’s not a lot new to find.
There are some deliberately large buttons, the climate controls are still very classic and tactile, even the steering wheel buttons are pretty chunky.
If you’re not used to the amount of technology in new cars, Subaru has tried to make this as easy as possible to navigate.
I hate to sound like one of those ‘back in my day’ people, but in a lot of cases I’m finding myself preferring interior layouts and controls of a few years ago rather than post-2020 screens and ‘iPad’ style controls.
Newer Subarus have a rather large portrait centre screen, and even though it works fine, this one with the buttons below it is easier.
The instrument cluster being a pair of physical dials is also welcome, even if it means the digital display looks many years older than the car really is.
It’s also a spacious cabin, if not just physically then in feeling also. The huge sunroof and high-visibility glasshouse means plenty of light comes in and makes it feel roomy while also of course being easy to see out of (and therefore, manoeuvre).
Ergonomically, the Subie is sound. The seating position, aforementioned driver visibility, controls placement and space around each passenger is practical and well thought out, plus moving back into the second row doesn’t feel like a huge comfort downgrade.
Light in the second row is also good, the seats recline and the touch-point materials are like the front seats - comfy leather and a lack of scratchy plastics unless you go looking for them.
The second row can also be folded down (in a 60/40 split) from the boot with controls near the electric tailgate, which brings the boot space from 498 litres to 1060L, though Subaru says maximum space available is 1740L up to the ceiling.
Honda CR-V
Little wonder the CR-V was the world's third most-bought SUV worldwide in 2023. It's big enough for most families' needs... and then some.
This is immediately apparent the moment the big doors are opened up nice and wide, revealing an airy, spacious and extremely user-friendly interior.
The Japanese brand has striven successfully for greater visual symmetry, harmony and operational simplicity in the dashboard's design and layout.
And, sure, the 9.0-inch touchscreen lacks the wow factor of vast buttonless displays as found in flashy alternatives such as the disappointing Chery Tiggo 7, but it works very effectively.
Hondas have always nailed the driving position bit down pat, and the RS is no exception, with ample seat and steering column adjustment, considered controls placements and unimpeded views of the instrumentation and road ahead due to the aforementioned thin pillars.
The instrumentation cluster is an electronic set-up offering the driver the choice of either super crisp and ultra-clear analogue dials, or somewhat fussier bar graphs, with a digital speedo augmenting both.
There's so much to enjoy and so little to criticise inside Honda's mid-sized SUV. Along with space to stretch, the front seats are notably comfortable and supportive, as several hundred kilometres sat ensconced in them proved. Both sides have electric adjustment at this price point, too.
Ventilation also rates highly, with the honeycomb full-dash-length grille and lovely toggle switches bringing aesthetic and tactile delight, respectively.
And, reflecting the CR-V's US focus, storage is on a large and helpful scale, offering bottle holders in the doors amongst other places to stash things in and on.
Moving to the rear seat area, entry/egress is ridiculously unimpeded, with a decently-shaped bench.
Families are also likely to appreciate series-best legroom, backed up by a handy amount of girth – always a good thing.
You're also met with occupant-facing air vents, overhead grab handles, even more door storage, the obligatory folding centre armrest with cupholders, front-seat-sited map pockets and a pair of USB-C outlets.
However, the standard sunroof does rob some headroom so people taller than about 180cm had better try before they ride, though the 60/40 backrest reclines to 16 positions and that's helpful here.
Being a hybrid, the RS e:HEV misses out on the sliding bench which adjusts by 190mm in other CR-Vs.
Vision out is exemplary back there, enhancing an already spacious and airy ambience. But if the front seat area majors on Japanese quality, the rear is hardly premium, with plenty of dreary cheap plastic trim, betraying the Honda SUV's focus on the price-driven American market. But nothing squeaked, rattled or broke, thankfully.
Further back, the tailgate rises remotely quickly enough, and there's quite a wide and long area to store things, but the electrification elements make for quite a high and uneven floor – though a deep bin area is also provided to hide stuff in.
There's also just a can of goo in lieu of a spare wheel.
Cargo capacity rises compared to the previous CR-V, ranging from 589 litres with the rear seats up, to 1636L, or 1072L if measured only to the window line.
Price and features
Subaru Forester
At $48,640, before on-road costs, the Forester STI Sport AWD (to use its full name) has some strong competition - there are high-spec AWD hybrid Toyota RAV4 GXLs, powerful front-drive SUVs like the Ford Escape Vignale and Hyundai Tucson N-Line hybrid, or even variants of Euros like the VW Tiguan and Renault Koleos all within $1000 of the STI Sport’s sticker price.
But those looking for the practicality the mix of Subaru’s AWD, the space inside, and perhaps even the slightly older interior can provide, there’s a decent list of features for a car coming in at just a slice under ‘fifty large’.
The STI Sport AWD is based on the top-spec (petrol) Forester 2.5i-S, so it shares plenty of standard features - read on for those - but the key additions for this variant include a suspension tune by the eponymous performance division, a combination black and ‘Bordeaux Red’ interior leather with red contrast stitching, STI badging inside and out, dark grey 18-inch alloy wheels and black exterior trim for the grille, mirrors, roof rails and light surrounds.
From the Forester 2.5i-S, the STI Sport also brings along the existing leather seats and trim, with power-adjustable fronts which are also heated, plus the other main interior features like the 8.0-inch touchscreen for multimedia with wired Android Auto and Apple CarPlay, an eight-speaker Harman Kardon sound system with subwoofer and amp and a large electric sunroof.
It’s lacking some more modern features like wireless phone mirroring, wireless phone charging, USB-C ports or a fully digital driver display, but the latter of those is certainly no great loss.
On the outside, the existing self-levelling LED headlights with cornering response, LED DRLs and fog lights, privacy glass, roof rails and electric tailgate all also carry over from the 2.5i-S.
There are certainly rivals with more features, but they require trade-offs in other areas that might not appeal to Subaru customers.
Honda CR-V
At the time of writing, choosing the hybrid version over the regular petrol-turbo CR-V means forking out for the top-of-the-line RS. Less expensive (and luxurious) hybrid grades are expected soon.
Starting from $59,900 drive-away, it isn't cheap, especially as its two closest rivals – the RAV4 Cruiser Hybrid and Nissan X-Trail Ti e-Power e4orce – offer all-wheel drive (AWD) for around the same price, while the Honda is front-wheel drive only.
At least the RS e:HEV isn't short on equipment, especially safety, with 11 airbags, Autonomous Emergency Braking (AEB), blind-spot alert, lane-keep assist, rear cross-traffic alert and adaptive cruise control included. Check out our safety section below for more details.
Being the CR-V flagship, you'll also find adaptive LED headlights, a panoramic sunroof, dual-zone climate control, leather upholstery, powered and heated front seats, a 9.0-inch touchscreen, sat-nav, wireless Apple CarPlay/wired Android Auto, Bose premium audio with 12 speakers, digital radio, a wireless charger, privacy glass, hands-free powered tailgate, roof rails, front and rear parking sensors and 19-inch alloys.
Note, however, there is no spare wheel, just a tyre-repair kit. Not good enough. For why, please see the Cost of Ownership/Warranty section.
There's also five years' free subscription to 'Honda Connect', bringing remote-control operation for climate control, lights and locking/unlocking, trip log data, location status, geo-fencing and emergency callout.
What's missing? Along with the aforementioned AWD, some rivals at this price point include larger alloy wheels if that's your thing.
Otherwise, the RS e:HEV brings plenty of features to the table. Sadly, not of the picnic variety, however, unlike in the first two generations of CR-V (1997 and 2001).
Under the bonnet
Subaru Forester
The same drivetrain as is used in the 2.5i-S is found in the STI Sport AWD.
No prizes for anyone who guessed it’s a 2.5-litre flat-four engine, but some might be disappointed to know that means no turbocharging and no sporty transmission - the STI Sport still outputs 136kW and 239Nm via a continuously variable transmission (CVT).
Subaru’s ever-present ‘symmetrical’ all-wheel drive system is, of course, here in the Forester too, but the brand’s relatively recent foray into hybrid drivetrains was given a miss for this version.
Honda CR-V
The CR-V hybrid is powered by a 2.0-litre four-cylinder direct-injection Atkinson Cycle petrol engine.
Married to a pair of electric motors that make a combined power output of 152kW, it delivers a system total of 135kW at between 5000rpm and 8000rpm, as well as an impressive 335Nm of torque from 0-2000rpm.
It sends drive to the front wheels via a single-speed electric continuously variable transmission (e-CVT), featuring deceleration paddles that help redirect regenerative braking energy back into the battery.
Tipping the scales at 1771kg (kerb), the power-to-weight ratio is 76.2kW/tonne. Not great, but the e:HEV's brawn lies in its hefty torque output.
Efficiency
Subaru Forester
Subaru claims a 7.4L/100km combined cycle (urban/extra-urban) fuel consumption figure for the STI Sport AWD, and while we’ve seen tests come close to that in other variants of the Forester with the same drivetrain, inner-city life can be a detriment to the Forester’s drinking habits.
On a test loop which was fairly unsympathetic to fuel efficiency, the Forester’s trip computer reported a 10.2L/100km figure, though a commute from inner-Melbourne to the CBD saw the digits nudge 13.0.
Historically, highway driving has been better for the Forester, and the STI Sport should be no different - plus its 63-litre fuel tank (able to run on 91 RON) should mean if you can approach Subaru’s claimed fuel consumption figure, you could theoretically find yourself driving more than 800km on a single tank.
Honda CR-V
Like Toyota's hybrids, Honda's do not need to be plugged in; the small 1.06kWh lithium-ion battery fitted is charged by either the engine or via regenerative braking energy.
Honda says the e:HEV RS on the Urban, Extra Urban and Combined cycles should average 4.9, 5.8 and 5.5 litres per 100km, respectively. The latter figure equates to a carbon dioxide emissions rating average of 125 grams/km.
Fitted with a 57L fuel tank, that means the driver can expect to achieve about 1035km between refills – and on 91 RON regular unleaded petrol at that.
Out in the real world, we managed a still-laudable 6.5L/100km during our time with the RS e:HEV, achieved through a mixture of inner-urban and open-road driving.
Driving
Subaru Forester
Like much of the Forester STI, the driving experience is heavily borrowed from some tried and true Subaru characteristics.
That naturally aspirated flat-four engine, though underwhelming on paper, gets the job done without much fuss. In fact, it sometimes feels peppier than it should given its outputs.
Its 'S/I' (Sport or Intelligent) drive mode selector is there to adjust acceleration style, but it doesn’t make an enormous difference.
Yes, it could do with more torque, but the engine doesn’t struggle and only starts to sound laboured at high revs during the kind of acceleration you’d need for seconds at a time.
The sound of a CVT whirring away isn’t exactly auditory bliss, nor does it make for engaging acceleration.
But it’s relatively quiet under regular load below highway speed and, as long as the road isn’t too coarse, NVH is generally good in the Forester.
Road, wind and engine noise are certainly present in certain circumstances, but they’re not intrusive until you get to higher speeds.
At those high speeds is where you might notice one of the most significant changes to the STI version of the Forester - the dampers have been retuned by STI, for what Subaru hopes is a “sharper, more responsive driving experience”.
It’s hard to seriously call the Forester sharp - it’s a mid-size family SUV with enough clearance to go light off-roading - but the STI Sport holds up well for what it is.
The Forester driving experience was already likeable and easy, and in terms of cornering and handling bumpy rural (or even just bumpy urban) roads, the suspension keeps things under control without feeling too stiff.
Its body doesn’t roll as much as you might expect when cornering, but given STI’s engineers focused their efforts on the dampers, its a good thing the Forester doesn’t either waft or thud when presented with big sharp bumps, nor does it vibrate and rattle over constant rough surfaces.
Of course, it’s also got 'X Mode' controls for different surfaces like snow, dirt and mud, making it a pretty handy companion for outdoor adventuring or camping trips in regions where the weather gets a bit unpredictable. If you’ve ever tried to get a front-wheel drive hatchback out of a muddy hillside campsite…
Essentially, the Forester is the kind of SUV that, if you wanted to, you could have a medium amount of fun with on a twisty road before taking it down a particularly rough, unsealed or muddy trail, then later hand the keys to your grandma knowing she’d be able to handle everything about the driving experience, too.
Honda CR-V
If the good-looking e:HEV RS's compelling value and great interior don't convince, then the driving experience might.
Building on five generations of gradual evolution, the latest CR-V uses an updated version of the previous model's all-new architecture – a very solid foundation to build an SUV upon.
Pairing that with Honda's latest hybrid electrification tech is the automotive equivalent of putting together peaches and cream. Even to a vegan.
From the first push of the starter button, the driving experience is seamless, elevating the e:HEV to the premium realm.
As it's in EV mode for much of the time at lower speeds, the SUV powers forward quickly and effortlessly, gliding along with a determined hum.
When the petrol engine eventually engages, it does so smoothly and quietly, yet the electric motor's influence and effects are far from done; the driver can sense all that torque (335Nm, remember) just from the immediacy of the throttle response.
Result? The CR-V's mid-range thrust makes it a deceptively rapid vehicle, accelerating instantly and surging strongly in almost no time at all. Keep an eye on that speedo, too, because the powertrain delivery is silken.
Furthermore, and going against type, the brakes thankfully avoid the wooden feel of many rival hybrids, and instead pull up immediately and with normal and natural pedal pressure.
Additionally, the paddle shifters provide variable off-throttle braking, though not quite down to a full stop.
Honda's chassis engineers have earned their keep when it comes to the CR-V's dynamics, too.
Light and easy around town for painless parking, the steering weights up nicely at higher speeds, allowing the driver to get into a linear rhythm with the machine, and without it feeling nervous or top-heavy when corners get tight – a rarity in an electrified SUV of this size.
And while it lacks the intimate connection of sportier SUVs like the Mazda CX-5 (given the RS badges), most people will appreciate the Honda's calm and controlled handling and road holding.
For the record, suspension in the CR-V consists of MacPherson-style struts up front and a multi-link rear end. However, a bit more suppleness would transform the e:HEV.
Wearing 235/55 R19 tyres, its ride around town is fine over larger bumps, absorbing them smoothly and without fuss, while overall tyre/road noise intrusion is pretty good, too.
Yet smaller-frequency surface irregularities, like joins and rail tracks, are not so easily dealt with, resulting in some sudden harshness.
Driven over exactly the same roads as the ZR-V e:HEV equivalent, it's clear there isn't quite the polish or sophistication that makes the smaller Honda SUV a highly-convincing dynamic and refined alternative to luxury German alternatives.
Other than the occasionally fidgety suspension, the CR-V hybrid makes for a dynamically impressive family SUV.
Safety
Subaru Forester
The Forester holds a maximum five-star ANCAP rating from assessment in 2019, which sounds outdated but arguably the most important aspects of the ANCAP testing are the crash protection, for which the Forester scored highly - an extremely good 94 per cent for adult occupant protection and 86 per cent for child occupant protection.
Seven airbags including dual frontal, side chest, curtain airbags and a driver knee airbag keep occupants protected, while Subaru notes the engine’s low-centred nature means it’s designed to slip under rather than into the cabin cell in case of a frontal collision.
Its active safety systems have been kept up to date, with functions like lane-keep assist, driver monitoring, automatic reverse braking and the help of Subaru’s ‘EyeSight’ monitoring system are all welcome additions, particularly since they’re not as intrusive as some rivals.
The lane-keep assist, for example, only beeps (relatively calmly) and intervenes when the Forester actually approaches the lane edge, and the driver monitoring and speed warning systems don’t chime or give warnings unless something is actually going wrong.
Like the multimedia and interior layout, the active safety is one area where the most recent previous generation of common features seems to be better than those many manufacturers are now implementing.
Honda CR-V
Honda has yet to publish ANCAP crash-test results for the latest CR-V. For what it's worth, the previous two generation models achieved a maximum five-star assessment.
Today's CR-V comes with 11 airbags, including two dual front, dual side, dual front knee, front-centre, dual rear side and full-length curtains.
On the active-safety front, there is AEB with pedestrian and cyclist detection, low-speed braking control front and rear, road departure mitigation (RDM), forward-collision warning, blind-spot alert, lane-departure warning/keep, rear cross-traffic alert, adaptive cruise control (with full stop-go), low-speed follow and traffic-jam assist, traffic-sign recognition, driver-fatigue warning, adaptive driving beam and auto high beams.
You'll also find front/rear parking sensors, anti-lock braking with brake assist, 'Electronic Brake-force Distribution', hill-start assist, stability control, traction control, an intelligent speed limiter, trailer stability assist, tyre-pressure monitors and something called 'Straight Driving Steering Assist'.
An ISOFIX child-seat latch is fitted to each outboard rear seat position, while a trio of anchorage points for straps are included either on or behind, as well.
Honda says its AEB system is operational from 5.0km/h, the RDM from 30km/h, the lane support systems from 72km/h and the traffic-jam assist tech works between 0-72km/h. Top speed is 186km/h.
Ownership
Subaru Forester
Subaru’s five-year/unlimited kilometre warranty is now considered the minimum par-for-course coverage for a mainstream new car in Australia, while some rivals are offering seven-, eight- or even 10-year warranties (though the longer one are sometimes conditional).
Subaru also offers 12 months of roadside assistance, though this is also often offered in similar lengths to warranties by competitors.
Servicing intervals for the Forester are every 12,500km or 12 months, with the first of five capped price services (aside from a free one-month check-up) costing $370.91 and the most expensive (fourth) costing $888.62.
A $1387.25 three-year service contract or a $2674.64 five-year plan are on offer.
Honda CR-V
Honda offers a five-year/unlimited kilometre warranty that also includes roadside assistance.
At the time of publication until the end of March, there is a special offer that extends those to seven years.
Additionally, there is a six-year rust perforation warranty and an eight-year hybrid-battery module warranty.
There's also five years' free subscription to 'Honda Connect', bringing remote-control operation for climate control, lights and locking/unlocking, as well as trip log data, location status, geo-fencing and emergency callout access.
The CR-V's servicing intervals are every 12 months or 10,000km or when the engine oil monitor light illuminates, with capped price servicing pegged at an annual flat fee of $199 for the first five years.
That's under $1000 over that period of time. Nothing extraordinary here unless you remember the old days of how expensive it was to service new Hondas.
Note, however, that the e:HEV's lack of a spare wheel does bring additional costs – namely in the cost of replacing the expensive tyre-repair kit, as well as the substantial time, inconvenience and flow-on issues of a more-severe puncture that can render the CR-V undriveable if the tyre-repair kit is unable to plug the hole.
Honda is not alone in not offering a spare wheel in its hybrid SUV range, but there are real consequences in being stranded with an unfixable flat tyre that needs to be factored in. Family holidays can be made or ruined in such circumstances.