Ford Transit VS Kia Carnival
Ford Transit
Likes
- Zero emissions/near-silent operation
- Load-carrying ability
- Low servicing costs
Dislikes
- Six-figure price
- No tow rating
- No home-charging with wall socket
Kia Carnival
Likes
- Space for everyone and everything
- Diesel donk perfectly matches the Carnival
- Improved safety across the range
Dislikes
- Holds back safety for top-spec models
- Diesel soundtrack a constant
- Price rises everywhere
Summary
Ford Transit
Ford has ventured into the pioneering world of battery-electric vehicles (BEVs) for commercial use with the launch of its E-Transit, which will compete for buyers in the Light Duty (3501-8000kg) segment of Australia’s Heavy Commercial market.
According to the company’s research, the new electrified member of its Transit fleet has a maximum driving range that’s more than double the average distance a typical commercial van travels each day in urban use.
So, we recently got behind the wheel for a week, focusing on the urban driving for which Ford claims the E-Transit is best suited (as opposed to long highway hauls), to see how it compares to diesel equivalents in its pure workhorse role.
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| Engine Type | — |
| Fuel Type | Electric |
| Fuel Efficiency | —L/100km |
| Seating | 2 seats |
Kia Carnival
This is actually the Carnival that Kia always wanted.
See, the last Carnival, the one this replaces, was Covid compromised, missing out on key technologies, as well as skipping an in-depth ride and handling localisation program, due to part supply issues and a freeze on international travel.
This one, though, addresses all of that, which is why you get a new cabin experience, new tech, and a complete overhaul of the steering and handling.
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- From $20k budget hatchbacks to a $100k premium electric SUV in just a handful of years - How Kia transformed its image and became a pain for brands like Mazda, Toyota, Mitsubishi and even Hyundai
It is, however, significantly more expensive, right across the range.
So, is the Carnival still worth it? Let’s find out.
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| Engine Type | 3.5L |
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| Fuel Efficiency | 9.6L/100km |
| Seating | 8 seats |
Verdict
Ford Transit8/10
The E-Transit is quiet, comfortable, rides well, can handle heavy payloads, has zero emissions and would be well-suited to urban daily commercial use for which it’s been designed for. However, $104K-plus would be out of reach for many private owners and small businesses. That’s why Ford is aiming it primarily at fleet buyers, who will quickly determine the commercial success or failure of the E-Transit in Australia. Watch this space.
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Kia Carnival7.5/10
Ok, here's the rub. Everything you just read could well be pointless. You like the Carnival. In fact, it sometimes makes up close to 90 per cent of the sales in its segment, and outsells all of its competitors combined.
So whether I like it or not, I suspect you'll be buying one anyway.
But I can say this - the new Carnival improves the formula right across the board. Well, everything except for price.
Design
Ford Transit
Apart from the distinctive blue grille bars and rear-door badge, you’d struggle to pick the E-Transit from the closely-related 350L. However, underneath its work-focused exterior there are considerable differences.
Although it shares the same MacPherson strut front suspension and four-wheel disc brakes, the E-Transit’s 14.3-metre turning circle is 1.0-metre larger than the 350L.
And its electric motor and single-speed transmission are mounted under the floor between the rear wheels, which required design of a unique coil-spring independent rear suspension.
The long, wide and slim lithium-ion battery is tucked up neatly beneath the load floor, to ensure that the cargo volume matches the 350L. This also ensures that many load-area conversions will carry over to the E-Transit with minimal modifications.
The big battery brings a considerable increase in kerb weight, given the E-Transit weighs 231kg more than its 350L equivalent. So, although the E-Transit is the most powerful of the Transit fleet, it’s also the heaviest.
However, in terms of power-to-weight and torque-to-weight ratios based on kerb weights, it compares favourably.
For example, the diesel 350L has 19.3kg/kW compared to the E-Transit’s superior 13.3kg/kW, while the 350L’s 6.1kg/Nm is lineball with the E-Transit’s 6.2 figure.
The driver’s instrument display shows when the battery is being topped-up by regenerative braking and how much engine power is being used, ranging from 0 to 100 per cent.
It also displays average energy consumption (kWh/100km), remaining battery charge, projected driving range and other BEV-specific functions.
The cabin offers ample headroom, but those seated in the centre must have their feet in a split-level position with their right foot on the (now defunct) transmission hump and their left foot on the floor.
Kia Carnival
Surely the greatest trick the Carnival pulls off, and it does so convincingly, is that it manages to make something so quintessentially uncool, the people-mover, and make it look good. Somehow sporty, even.
I like the Carnival's big, bold and blacked-out front end of the GT-Line, and with its two-tone 19-inch alloys, wide stance and low ride height, it looks almost like some mad attempt at a JDM tune car, rather than a sensible people mover.
Elsewhere, the boxy profile, the sharp body creases and the third-row compartment that kind of juts over the rear tyres like a house that's been extended all somehow work, and give the Carnival far more street cred than you might expect.
Inside, we spent time only in the flagship GT-Line and its GT-Line Lite sibling, and both present as calming, comfortable spaces, and Kia's minimalist approach to combining the climate and audio controls into a single strip (it's functionality can be changed by pushing a button) helps keep the cabin fuss free.
The tech in the top-spec models feels modern and on-point, too, and the materials are all nice under the touch. Be warned though, the cabin plastics get progressively worse the further back you sit, and the third row is cocooned by hard and scratchy plastics.
Practicality
Ford Transit
With its hefty 2639kg kerb weight and 4250kg GVM, our test vehicle has a 1611kg payload rating compared to the 350L’s smaller 1142kg. However, the E-Transit is not rated for towing.
The cargo bay, which in Mid Roof form offers 11-cubic metres of load volume, has internal walls that are lined to roof height. It’s accessed from the kerbside through a sliding door with a generous 1300mm opening width.
Rear access is through a pair of barn-doors which open to 270 degrees to optimise forklift access. Large magnets protrude from each side of the body to firmly secure these doors when fully opened which is a welcome safety feature.
A button located inside the right-hand barn-door switches on a bright external LED overhead light to illuminate rear-loading in poor light conditions.
The load floor, which is protected by a composite liner, is 3533mm long and 1784mm wide with 1392mm between the wheel housings.
That means it can carry three 1165mm-square Aussie pallets or four 1200 x 800mm Euro pallets, secured by up to 10 load-anchorage points. The  1786mm internal height allows tall people to stand with minimal stooping.
There’s ample cabin storage including a large-bottle holder and bin in each door, plus angled large-bottle holders/bins on each side of the lower dash and small-bottle/cupholders on each side of the upper dash.
There are also three open bins across the top of the dash-pad, a slender vertical bin and pop-out cupholder in the lower centre dash, plus a full-width overhead shelf with numerous compartments.
Both base cushions on the passenger seat can be tipped forward to access a large hidden storage compartment below.
The centre passenger seat backrest also folds down to a horizontal position to reveal a handy work desk with pen holder, two-cupholders and an elastic strap for securing paperwork.
Kia Carnival
The Carnival measures 5115mm in length, 1995mm in width and 1775mm in height, and it rides on a sizeable 3092mm wheelbase.Â
And those mini-van dimensions have a predictably positive impact on luggage space, with room growing from 627 litres with all seating rows in place, to a massive 2827 litres with the third row stowed.
The key practicality perk here, though, is space, and lots of it. At 175cm, there was ample room for me in the middle row, and you can configure the cabin to your liking, too. You can slide the row on rails, for example, to prioritise leg room where you need it, and the middle seat folds down to reveal cupholders in a kind of hard plastic travel tray.
But even in the third row I could easily get comfortable, though head room begins to get a little tighter. There are cupholders and USB connection points, too, and I can honestly say you could send full-size humans back there and not feel overly guilty about it.
The Carnival will tow 2000kgs braked, too.
Price and features
Ford Transit
Our test vehicle is officially known as the 420L BEV Mid Roof, with 420 denoting its 4.2-tonne GVM (it’s actually 4.25-tonne), L denoting its long wheelbase and Mid Roof being one of two roof heights available, with the other being the optional High Roof variant.
Like its taller stablemate, our test vehicle comes with a 68kWh lithium-ion battery pack, electric motor and single-speed automatic transmission for a list price of $104,990 plus on-road costs.
For that money you could almost buy two diesel Transit 350L Auto equivalents. Even so, the E-Transit brings zero emissions, reduced noise and claimed lower operating and maintenance costs for business operators. With 198kW and 430Nm, it also has the most power and torque of any model in the Transit line-up.
It comes equipped with 16-inch steel wheels and 235/65R16C tyres plus a full-size spare, along with dark grey bumpers and side-mouldings in areas where scrapes and dents usually occur in hard-working vans. Factory options include dual side-sliding doors and more.
A steel bulkhead/cargo barrier separates the cargo bay from the cabin, which comes standard with a single driver’s seat and twin-passenger bench seat that are all heated.
The 10-way adjustable driver’s seat includes a fold-down inboard armrest, adjustable lumbar support and base-cushion rake.
Plus there’s a two-way adjustable steering wheel, power-folding and heated door mirrors, daytime running lights, three 12-volt accessory outlets, two USB ports, a reversing camera and rear parking sensors.
Its large 12-inch touchscreen is the gateway to numerous 'Sync 4'-connected services including the 'Ford Pass' app, which includes 'Power My Trip'.
By entering a destination, this app can consider the vehicle’s current state of charge in addition to real-time traffic conditions, to help identify charging stops when a customer will need them.
Kia Carnival
Bad news first. The price is higher this time around, right across the five-trim line-up, with the prices up between around $2600 and $5300, depending on which trim level you’re shopping for.
Prices start at $50,150 for the entry-level S petrol, and climb to $72,910 for the top-spec GT-Line diesel. There’s also a GT-Line Hybrid, which tops the group at $76,210, but it’s not here yet, so we’ll cross that electrified bridge when we get to it and stick with the ICE range for now.
The range opens with the S ($50,150 petrol, $52,380 diesel), which scores 17-inch alloys, LED headlights and DRLs, heated mirrors, cloth seats, an electronic parking brake, and a smart key with push-button start, which is new for this update.
On the tech front, there is a new integrated 4.0-inch driver display, and a new 12.3-inch central screen with Apple CarPlay and Android Auto, linking with an eight-speaker sound system, now with a surround-sound function.
Stepping up to the Sport ($56,050 petrol, $58,280 diesel) adds 18-inch alloys, rear LED combination lamps, a leather steering wheel and shifter, and dual-zone climate up front with single-zone temperature control in the second row. New for this update is a wireless charging pad and artificial leather seats.Â
Next is the Sport+ ($62,380 petrol, $64,610 diesel), which gets a whole host of new safety equipment, which we will come back to in a moment, along with a powered tailgate, automatic sliding doors and auto windows, and heated seats in the first and second rows. It also ups the tech, with twin 12.3-inch screens taking care of multimedia and driving info duties.
Then comes the GT-Line Lite ($66,350 petrol, $68,580 diesel), which is fitted with bigger 19-inch alloy wheels, scores LED interior lighting, gets a dual-pane auto sunroof and some chrome embellishments on the exterior. The trade-off, though is that the powered windows are now for the driver only, as is the powered front seat.
Finally, there’s the flagship GT-Line ($70,680 petrol, $72,910 diesel), which nabs dual-projection headlights, a heated steering wheel, a 12-speaker BOSE sound system, ventilated seats up front, a big head-up display and a digital rear-view mirror, along with a slightly better interior treatment and the return of the auto window and powered seat to the passenger side of the car.
Under the bonnet
Ford Transit
Its rear-mounted electric motor produces an unmatched 198kW and 430Nm. The lithium-ion battery’s energy supply can be boosted by using the ‘Low’ setting on the rotary dial e-shifter to optimise regenerative braking.
There are three switchable drive modes including default 'Normal', energy-saving 'Eco' and 'Slippery' to improve traction in low-grip conditions.
The battery charge socket is located behind a spring-loaded flap in the grille and the E-Transit comes equipped with a Mode 3, 32-amp charge cable which is stored in the compartment under the passenger seats.
E-Transit can AC charge overnight, using a professionally-installed wall unit, in approximately eight hours at 11.3kW, or quick DC charge (15 to 80 per cent) at 115kW in approximately 34 minutes.
However, Ford does not supply a cable to allow overnight charging at home using a domestic wall socket. That’s because its targeting large fleet buyers, so the cable it supplies is only for ‘at depot’ charging or when using public-charging facilities.
Kia Carnival
There are two ICE options on the table here. The first is what I reckon is the lesser of the two, a 3.5-litre petrol V6, producing a rev-happy 216kW and 355Nm.
The better option, I think, is the 2.2-litre, four-cylinder diesel, which makes 148kW and 440Nm, and just suits the nature of the car a little better.
Both pair with an eight-speed automatic, and send their power to the front tyres.
Efficiency
Ford Transit
Ford claims an official WLTP driving range of 230-307km from a single charge. When we collected the E-Transit it was fully charged but the projected driving range displayed on the instrument panel was only 179km, so there are variables in these figures.
However, we did end up inadvertently testing the single-charge driving range because we could not charge the E-Transit. That was due to our local public-charging facilities being located inside multi-storey carparks which could not be accessed due to height restrictions.
So, during the week we drove a total of 190km, with about 19km of range remaining. Therefore, it is capable of at least 200km on a single charge but 300km seems optimistic, which is nothing new given the equally optimistic L/100km figures automakers claim for combustion-engine vehicles.
We used the Low drive mode most of the time to optimise battery top-ups through regenerative braking and our testing included a mix of city and suburban roads, both unladen and when hauling a big payload.
Average consumption was 28kWh/100km, so we would suggest a 'real world' driving range of around 200-230km from a single charge.
Kia Carnival
The petrol engine will sip a claimed 9.6 litres per hundred kilometres on the combined cycle, and produce 220g per kilometre of C02. The diesel lowers both those numbers, to 6.5 litres and 170 grams.
Both models are fitted with a 72-litre fuel tank, which means you’ll be sailing well north of $100 to fill one up.
Driving
Ford Transit
It offers a comfortable and commanding driving position, thanks to the multi-adjustable seat, two-way steering wheel adjustment and clear eye-lines to the big truck-style door mirrors with lower sections offering wide-angle views.
You don’t need to warm-up the engine to generate cabin heating - it’s instant. And when you get underway it feels more like you're riding in a tram than a van, with its muted electric hum the closest we’ve come to driving a silent commercial vehicle.
With the big battery under the floor it feels firmly planted on the road when unladen, with a low centre of gravity providing good stability when cornering.
The battery weight, combined with E-Transit’s unique four-coil suspension, iron out the bumps and provide a supple ride quality.
Acceleration from standing starts is brisk and smooth in Normal mode, even though you can sense its 2.6-tonne kerb weight's slight reluctance to get moving even with 430Nm of instant torque. At 100km/h, there’s only tyre noise and a little wind-buffeting around the door mirrors.
We drove the first 100km in Normal mode, during which average consumption was 27kWh/100km. We then switched to Eco mode, which resulted in a drop in performance without a corresponding decrease in consumption. Perhaps you need to drive it longer in Eco to harvest the benefits.
We then switched back to Normal mode for our GVM test. We forklifted 1300kg into the cargo bay which with driver equalled a total payload of 1400kg, which was still more than 200kg under its GVM limit. The rear suspension compressed 50mm with ample travel remaining, while the nose rose 35mm in response.
The compressed suspension felt firmer, as you’d expect, but the electric motor hardly noticed this load around town, with acceleration and general response remaining strong if slightly subdued. Energy consumption increased to 28kWh/100km during our load run.
In strictly city driving, which the E-Transit is aimed at, it proved to be a capable workhorse. It can do the job quite economically, too, given that during most of our testing in Normal mode it was operating in the 0-50 per cent ‘power usage’ zone which provides ample performance.
Kia Carnival
Forgive the horrific paraphrasing, but it seems rumours of the death of diesel have been greatly exaggerated, at least when it comes to the Kia Carnival.
Get this – diesel sales make up some 90 per cent of the Carnival's total haul, with petrol providing a pittance towards the sales total, presumably being picked up by fleet buyers.
And to be honest, that means nine out of 10 people are making the right choice here. Yes, the petrol makes more power, but it's the torque on offer from the diesel that makes pushing the Carnival around feel far more effortless.
The petrol engine can definitely get you moving, but it feels a bit too rev-happy and thrashy when you really put your foot down, and its significantly thirstier to boot.
The diesel isn't perfect – the thrum of the engine is a constant companion whenever you put your foot down, and there's actually too much torque on offer at times, like if you're accelerating up hill from a standstill on a damp road, and so the front tyres can scrabble and scramble for grip.
But it otherwise so perfectly suits the nature of the Carnival that it is definitely the best and most satisfying choice.
Another big change for this update is the fact that Kia's complete ride and handling program has been rolled out here. Kia says local work done on the outgoing car, the one this replaces, was curtailed by Covid and bushfires, and so ended up being done by correspondence.
This one, though, has had the whole enchilada thrown at it, and it shows. They've succeeded in making a bigger car feel smaller around you. It's not a sports car by any measure, but nor does it ever feel too big and unwieldily.
Part of that is down to the steering, which is direct and confidence inspiring, but mostly I suspect it's because of the ride, which is firmer than you might expect in a family hauler, but also offers a connection to that road below that makes you feel in control.
Whether a firm-ish ride is a perk or negative is up to you, but it definitely works for me.
Safety
Ford Transit
ANCAP is not applicable to heavy commercial vehicles but the E-Transit shares the same six airbags and active safety and driver assistance as other Transits.
Highlights include AEB with pedestrian detection, adaptive cruise control, blind-spot monitoring and rear cross-traffic alert, lane-keeping assist, traffic sign recognition, a reversing camera, rear parking sensors and more.
Kia Carnival
Part of the change package for this updated Carnival is in its safety kit, some of which simply wasn’t available when Kia launched its predecessor.
Which is why every model now gets a centre side airbag, 'Forward Collision Assist AEB', 'Rear Occupant Alert', 'Trailer Stability Assist' and front parking sensors, joining the rear ones that were already there.
Sport+ Models and up now add a 'Blind Spot View Monitor' and rain-sensing wipers, as well as rear AEB through the 'Parking Collision Avoidance' function.
I have to say, though, when your entry-level car is $50k-plus, there’s no real excuse for limiting the best safety kit to the upper-spec models.
Also standard are lane keep assist, with 'Lane Follow Assist', multi-collision braking, a speed-limit warning (which you will turn off) and a reversing camera.
The Carnival range carries a five-star ANCAP safety rating, which it earned in 2021.
Ownership
Ford Transit
The E-Transit is covered by a five-year/unlimited km warranty plus a separate warranty for the lithium-ion battery and high-voltage electrical components of eight years/160,000km, whichever occurs first.
Capped-price service intervals are 12 months/30,000km, with a total cost for the first five scheduled services of $925 or just $185 per service. Such low maintenance costs are in stark contrast to the purchase price!
Kia Carnival
Like all Kias, the Carnival arrives with a seven-year, unlimited-kilometre warranty, with capped-price servicing throughout.
Kia’s servicing costs are higher than some of its competitors, though, so you might want to compare them, as well as compare what’s included, and the diesel model will usually cost slightly more to maintain than the petrol version.
Service intervals are every 12 months or 15,000kms, and while the brand is still finalising the petrol servicing costs, the diesel prices are $386, $682, $480, $869, $434, $845 and $461, covering the first seven years of ownership.